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    Quote Originally Posted by Viator
    Doesnt that weird that Edea doesnt know her power has gone?
    She said she need to see Odine to remove her power, doesnt that mean she knows that she still have her sorceress power and she knows that she is STILL a sorceress.
    This is one of flaws in the game to show to us that Edea is STILL a sorceress,no one can deny this fact.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Bahamut
    It is weird, sure, but it is even more weird to assume that she is lying to us afterwards when she says she isn't a sorceress anymore.
    Actually she's not lying to us it`s only Square`Intention.Maybe Square realised this mistake,but they just leave it because that's just the way it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Bahamut
    The fact is that for your idea to work, you need to assume Edea is lying/not telling the truth. This is a purely baseless assumption, hence the theory is not valid.
    Edea is not lying it's only Square'Intention to make her lie.
    JUST THINK ABOUT IT!
    If Square make Edea still a sorceress that would destroy the plot because at that time we would asking how Rinoa become a sorceress.
    If Square make Edea is no longer a sorceress that would make a flaw, maybe some people wont notice this flaw.The flaw is this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Viator
    Doesnt that weird that Edea doesnt know her power has gone?
    She said she need to see Odine to remove her power, doesnt that mean she knows that she still have her sorceress power and she knows that she is STILL a sorceress.
    That's why it would better to make Edea is no longer a sorceress because most people wont notice this flaw.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Bahamut
    People cant felt TC because TC is not completed yet.
    Squall and Co feel TC yet TC isn't finished then either...
    Yeah I forget to say only Squall and Co can felt TC.
    Squall and Co can felt TC because they get inside TC.
    If everyone can felt TC,eveyone already go to the future like Squall and Co did.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Bahamut
    What do you mean how? They just give away their powers, then carry on living.
    If they can give away their sorceress power,why Edea doesnt do it in the begining.Edea said :
    Sorceress Ultimecia is alive. She is able to take control of my body at any time. If that were to happen... I would once again bring terror. I, too, value my self-being. I want to protect myself. If it were possible, I would like to rid myself of the sorceress' power.Doctor Odine may know a way. He may be able to save me.
    She said Doctor Odine might know a way that means Edea doesnt know how to get rid of her sorceress power.Other sorceresses dont know how to get rid their power either except dead.
    AND it figured out that Odine doesnt knows HOW either.(i.e Odine can't get rid of Adel's power).

    [QUOTE+Sir Bahamut]Because that simple knowledge can explain everything.
    And how is that?[/QUOTE]

    That simple knowledge is Edea explain her meeting with Squall and Ultimecia in the past.With this simple knowledge,almost everything can be explained.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Bahamut
    And considering that Odine's assumptions were made up by Square, he carries far more weight than you do. Hence unless you show why we shouldn't believe his 'assumption', it can be considered canon.
    You have to know that assumption is the thing that can be RIGHT and WRONG.You shouldn'd believe his assumption because it's just assumptsion,no more than that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Bahamut
    And yes, there ARE flaws in the game (eg. time compression fails to fully make sense when scrutinised) but those flaws are generally obvious to see, and can't really be seen as anything but a flaw. But what exactly is your point? It's not good enough to say that there are flaws in the game. You have to specifically point out flaws which cannot be seen as anything but flaws, and then show how those flaws support your theory.
    The flaw is Edea is no longer a sorceress.
    I already show you that Edea is STILL a sorceress.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viator
    Doesnt that weird that Edea doesnt know her power has gone?
    She said she need to see Odine to remove her power, doesnt that mean she knows that she still have her sorceress power and she knows that she is STILL a sorceress.
    Because with this flaw it would lead to another question.
    Where Rinoa get her power from?.It's sure not from Edea because she's STILL a sorceress.
    The answer of that question is Ultimecia's power


    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Bahamut
    However, let's say they believe the story about Edea. That however leaves the question as to who the sorceress who possessed her was. Unless a good identity is given, people are in no way going to buy into the story that she was just possessed. It's like; "Don't worry, she's not evil, she was just possessed!". "By who?!". "Oh, no one...".
    No one would buy into that. Eventually Ultimecia would have to be revealed. Whatever happens, sorceresses would be loathed by the public even more than before.
    Like I said Edea possessed by Evil Sorceress,Squall just can come up with random name,no?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Bahamut
    Tell me then, do you really believe that a sorceress who can compress time itself, and absorb the entire universe, as well as brining statues to life, manifest GF's out of thin air and read people's minds would really have a problem with possessing someone?
    Then why she can defeated by Squall and Co?Sorry this is not a question.
    I already explained how Ultimecia possessed Edea.It's only your turn to believe it or not,that's all the matters.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Bahamut
    Come on, did you not read what I said? The fact that there are 2 targets in Ultimecia's final form has a perfectly good alternate explanation which I shared in my last post.
    the reason we see two Ultimecia's is because Ultimecia has transformed herself in order to absorb time and space (which is what it says if you scan her; hence the top part can be seen as the part absorbing, and the bottom part as the human remains of Ultimecia).
    With that explanation it shows us that there`s TWO Ultimecia inside Ultimecia.We can attack TWO Ultimecia,that's another explanation,that show us that there's two Ultimecia inside Ultimecia.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viator
    Odine said the machine must have a limit, how the hell he knows about that.The question is how the hell he knows about it if JME not exist yet at that time , doesnt that sound he just make an assumption.
    Odine said his JME at this time is only a toy,that means he doesnt know how JME at Ultimecia`s time works.
    And he said the JME have a limit,doesnt that mean that`s only his ASSUMPTION.
    JME that Odine talking about is only his ASSUMPTION about how Ultimecia possessed the other sorceress.
    This statement still valid,that its only Odine's assumption about JME.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Bahamut
    The fact is that for your idea to work, you need to assume Edea is lying/not telling the truth. This is a purely baseless assumption, hence the theory is not valid.
    EDEA IS LYING. I already show to you that Edea is STILL a sorceress
    I will show to you once more time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viator
    Doesnt that weird that Edea doesnt know her power has gone?
    She said she need to see Odine to remove her power, doesnt that mean she knows that she still have her sorceress power and she knows that she is STILL a sorceress.
    Actually she's not lying to us it`s only Square`Intention.Maybe Square realised this mistake,but they just leave it because that's just the way it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Bahamut
    then the most logical and plausible thing is to accept what the game tells us.
    Quote Originally Posted by Viator
    How can we accept everything the game tells us,if there`s FLAWS in the game.
    You have to seperate truth and lie because there's FLAWS in the game.
    Last edited by Viator; 05-31-2006 at 06:49 AM.
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