Agreed, Viator, granted Square has plotholes in their games, however, these plotholes are in my opinion essential to the game! We can always debate this. Viator, also your theory about two Ultimecias.....one word: Huh? I strongly doubt she would have sent Squall and the others too far into the past.....As for your Edea theory about not being able to lose her powers except for death, there is a fine line between knowing how to lose your powers and being able to. Alot of people on this thread have extremely good points. Take them to heart.