Revelation of the Truth

[Christmas]

You still can't accept my theory because you already have your own perspective about FF8.
But believe me your perspective about FF8 have ERRORS
And if you accept my theory you wont find any ERRORS again.

This is a pretty bold statement I will said and I choose not to believe or accept your theory.

[Viator]

You lost me at "You have to focus on REAL STORYLINE that I have made.", which succintly proved that you are naught more than a crazed conspiracy theorist. Your "REAL STORYLINE" is not Plausible, much less probable.

The reason I say that is because the storyline that Square made had Plotholes and flaws.
And my theory here to close those plotholes and flaws to make REAL STORYLINE PERFECT!
REAL STORYLINE that I have made is my theory.

You still can't accept my theory because you already have your own perspective about FF8.
But believe me your perspective about FF8 have ERRORS
And if you accept my theory you wont find any ERRORS again.

Maybe this is bold statement BUT nothing wrong in this statement.

What am I doing is just telling the truth.
And if you dont believe the truth fine, have it your way.

Christmas tell me the reason why you dont believe my theory?
(this goes for anybody else too).Just tell me.

[Ryushikaze]

Simply closing plot holes with wild stories won't do it, especially if said wild stories are inherently non parsimonious.

Besides, your 'real' story has flaws of its own, but seeing as you didn't feel the need to explain what the flaws in the actual story were, I see no reason to explain yours to you.

[Punkrockerithink]

Agreed, Viator, granted Square has plotholes in their games, however, these plotholes are in my opinion essential to the game! We can always debate this. Viator, also your theory about two Ultimecias.....one word: Huh? I strongly doubt she would have sent Squall and the others too far into the past.....As for your Edea theory about not being able to lose her powers except for death, there is a fine line between knowing how to lose your powers and being able to. Alot of people on this thread have extremely good points. Take them to heart.

[Viator]

Simply closing plot holes with wild stories won't do it, especially if said wild stories are inherently non parsimonious.

Besides, your 'real' story has flaws of its own, but seeing as you didn't feel the need to explain what the flaws in the actual story were, I see no reason to explain yours to you.

The reason you dont explain it to me because you dont find any flaws in my story.If you find flaws just say it,so I can solved the problem to make you understand.

I already prove that Edea still a sorceress.
I will tell you one more time
If Edea is STILL a sorceress that means Rinoa doesnt have Edea's power.When Rinoa went into come she only have Ultimecia's power

And because Edea is STILL a sorceress my theory is TRUE.

If you dont understand my theory just tell me,so I can make you understand my theory.

Dont JUST said "I don't believe your theory,bye bye."

You have to tell me why you dont believe with my theory.
So I can solved your problem.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE GAME AS A PLAYER YOU WON'T GET ANYTHING EXCEPT ENTERTAINMENT.
YOU SHOULD LOOK AT THE GAME AS A CHARACTER.

[Sir Bahamut]

How many times must this be specified, anyway?

We do not believe your theory because we believe that the tiny plot hole you're basing it on (Edea not knowing she wasn't a sorceress) is nothing but a bit of bad writing on Square's part.

There are two options, see; either you consider it just a bit of bad writing and don't let it affect the entire plot of the game, or you can assume it is a highly important piece of information which drastically alters the plot. We simply find the latter to be too farfetched to be believable.

Simple as that.

[Viator]

Why should I change my mind if I'm right.
That plothole actually affected the entire plot in the game.
Before I tell you,you still believe that Rinoa had all sorceress power (Edea,Ultimecia,Adel)
But after I tell that Edea is still a sorceress,you realised that there's a plothole.
Because Edea still a sorceress that means Rinoa doesnt have Edea's power,she only has Ultimecia's power when she went into coma.
Because Edea STILL a sorceress my theory is TRUE

Just tell me specific what is wrong with my theory so I can solved it.

[Qurange]

Because Edea isn't still a Sorceress--there's no reason to believe that she is. The limit break she uses doesn't have to be Sorceress magic any more than the limit breaks of the main characters do--they're all just para-magic powered by adrenaline, in all likelihood. Furthermore, it would be impossible for Ultimecia to have possessed Rinoa had she /not/ been a Sorceress. Why think 'oh, the game must be lying?' when instead we can look at Edea's past--a past in which she has for some time been mentally dominated--and think that her sense were simply still addled, and thus she didn't realize she didn't have her powers because she never made the attempt to use them.

[Viator]

Because Edea isn't still a Sorceress--there's no reason to believe that she is. The limit break she uses doesn't have to be Sorceress magic any more than the limit breaks of the main characters do--they're all just para-magic powered by adrenaline, in all likelihood. Furthermore, it would be impossible for Ultimecia to have possessed Rinoa had she /not/ been a Sorceress. Why think 'oh, the game must be lying?' when instead we can look at Edea's past--a past in which she has for some time been mentally dominated--and think that her sense were simply still addled, and thus she didn't realize she didn't have her powers because she never made the attempt to use them.

I already prove that Edea still a sorceress

Doesnt that weird that Edea doesnt know her power has gone?
She said she need to see Odine to remove her power, doesnt that mean she knows that she still have her sorceress power and she knows that she is STILL a sorceress.

Actually Edea WAS talking of her own powers (the ones she didn't have that is), as evidenced by this line:

Edea: ......... In the meantime, something must be done to suppress my powers... (from Game Script at GameFAQs).

Edea said "My power" that means she is STILL a sorceress"

You can find more answer at post no 22 and 26.

Because of this plothole most people after beat the game believe that Edea is no longer a sorceress.But I already prove that Edea STILL a sorceress.

In the ending we see that Edea recieved Ultimecia's power that means Edea had TWO sorceresses powers inside her.
Edea gives Ultimecia's power to Rinoa not her sorceress power.
That means Edea is STILL a sorceress because she STILL have her power.
Rinoa became a sorceress because Ultimecia's power NOT Edea's power.
And because as I stated "of all sorceresesses Ultimecia is a special one.she has a motto "MY POWER IS MY LIFE".(Dont ask me why I know about it you just need to believe it)"
Because her power is her life that means she lives inside Rinoa when she went into coma.That's why she can control Rinoa.
Maybe this sounds farfetced but this is however the TRUTH.

I hope you now understand Qurange.

You dont need Square to make a comfirmation that Edea still a sorceress.Because I already PROVE IT!

You dont need to prove god exist to make sure human exist.

If you still can't accept the truth,well what can I say.
We are only human
It looks like you people dont pay too much attention in this thread.
This thread is REVELATION.

[Ryushikaze]

Actually, all YOU'VE shown is that Edea is unaware that she is no longer a sorceress and horribly horribly mangle a quote to turn the story into what you believe it should be, even though the change is pointless and somewhat detrimental

[Viator]

NO, I've shown and Prove that Edea is STILL a sorceress
And because Edea is STILL a sorceress,of course it will change the story.
After the ending Edea STILL a sorceress.

[Sir Bahamut]

Well, it's obvious that you don't have any intentions of backing down any time soon, so I don't have anything to add to what Ryu just said. I guess that means we're all living in the dark, but I can live with that :rolleyes2

[Future Esthar]

Good to know I am not the only one.

Odine said that JME have a limit is PURE ASSUMPSION (ODINE`S ASSUMPTION)

It`s hard to believe that you can`t notice the flaws.
Like I said you have to figure it out on yourself.
If you cant then try HARDER.

Same with my theories.

[Christmas]

Sure, what if Edea is still a Sorceress?

Anyway, I like the way you proclaim your theory as the "TRUTH" while asking others why they do not believe in the "TRUTH". If this is really the "TRUTH" then that is no denying it and it doesn't matters if people believe it or not instead of going around preaching your "TRUTH" insisting people to believe in it.

Like the way I believed PUPU IS THE TRUE HERO OF FF VIII as the
"TRUTH" but no one believes it anyway.

Odine said that JME have a limit is PURE ASSUMPSION (ODINE`S ASSUMPTION)

It`s hard to believe that you can`t notice the flaws.
Like I said you have to figure it out on yourself.
If you cant then try HARDER.

The whole statement here is also PURE ASSUMPTION. (YOUR ASSUMPTION)

Same with my theories.

[Future Esthar]

A machine like JME exists and can be seen on the game along with its advanced version,Viator.However the machine is not there on Ulti´s time.
I will gladly tell you through PM the locations of that machines.
But I also agree that the limit thingy was an excuse.