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    Ahh. Another thread for FFVIII full of wacky theories! Yay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Me
    A tip, Viator: Simply quoting yourself and insisting it is so does not make it so. Repitition does not make someone true.
    Quote Originally Posted by Viator
    You are wrong.
    You maybe good at words but not good at understanding.
    So, I am somehow wrong in stating the true statement that repitition of an idea is not indicative of its validity?

    Good child, you fail most utterly at this juncture. Additionally, tis you, not I, who are in remedial comprehension classes.

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    Your "new story" is non-parsimonious.
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    You said that because you dont understand my "new story".
    No, I understand your story perfectly. It adds additional, unnecessary elements to the story, disregards existing elements, and what's more, invokes a no limits fallacy in order to disregard one said element. It is also based ENTIRELY off the ultra specific interpretation of two quotes when nothing in context suggests either is intended as you interpret them.

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    and based around a 'plot-hole' that is easily explained into nothingness by some in character ignorance.
    Quote Originally Posted by Crazyboy
    It maybe nothingness to you but not to the story line.
    It is nothingness TO the storyline you ignorant dolt.

    How's about this. YOU actually PROVE that Edea is still a sorceress after your battle, instead of using Paramagic like Seifer does in his limit break, instead of just insisting that you've already proved it. And stop using the same quote over and over, it doesn't PROVE she's a sorceress, any more than Tarkin's "nothing can stop us now" or Gunray's "Nothing can get through our shields" proves anything either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vialicious
    You are right nobody can destroy my theory (Truth).
    Your theory and truth are two wholly separate things.

    And By The By, it's not Christmas offering the poor excuses here.

    The burden of proof isn't on US to disprove you. The burden is on you, to prove, to us, the skeptics, that your alternate take is the truth. You cannot do so by simply stating that your idea is the truth and refusing to support it beyond two overly specific quote interpretations and a couple of of goddamned logical fallacies.
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    So, I am somehow wrong in stating the true statement that repitition of an idea is not indicative of its validity?
    It depends on circumtances.

    No, I understand your story perfectly.
    If you still dont believe that Edea is STILL a sorceress never say that you understand my theory.

    It adds additional, unnecessary elements to the story,
    If you say unnecessary you better shut up from now on.

    It is nothingness TO the storyline you ignorant dolt.
    That means you are idiot.

    And stop using the same quote over and over, it doesn't PROVE she's a sorceress,
    Like I said just SHUT UP if you dont understand.

    Your theory and truth are two wholly separate things.
    My theory and truth are the same thing because
    My theory = Truth

    And By The By, it's not Christmas offering the poor excuses here.
    Like I said if you dont understand JUST shut up and just watch.

    The burden of proof isn't on US to disprove you.
    Why you people alwasy say "WE" / "US" why dont you use "I" / "ME"

    The burden is on you, to prove, to us
    I have proven.And you still keep talking like this,that means you dont understand.

    that your alternate take is the truth
    It is.

    You cannot do so by simply stating that your idea is the truth and refusing to support it beyond two overly specific quote interpretations and a couple of of goddamned logical fallacies.
    I think that support already enough to prove my theory is the truth.

    IF square is the one make this theory you will believe it right away,why?
    Because you dont understand the Truth.
    You dont believe me because I,Viator the one who make this theory,why?
    Because You are too stupid to realized the truth.
    Someday I will conquer all and I will be free -- Believe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viator
    It depends on circumtances.
    It NEVER depends on the circumstances. Repitition of an idea does not make that idea any more valid. An idea must be sound or unsound on its own merits

    If you still dont believe that Edea is STILL a sorceress never say that you understand my theory.
    No, I understand it fully. I also understand it's complete and utter BUNK. You're using the same tactics as the evangelicals. Stop proselytizing.

    If you say unnecessary you better shut up from now on.
    ...Squbba? Would redundant be better, then? The point is, your version of events requires so many unsupported claims it's ridiculuous. It is the antithesis of a parsimonious theory.

    That means you are idiot.
    Please note that there is a difference between insulting someone, and making that insult your entire argument. You are committing the latter, and that, good sir, is an Ad Hominem.
    And just to satisfy my curiosity, how does the 'plot hole' being absolutely nothing to the overall story make me an idiot? The leaps in logic involved should be incredibly entertaining.

    Like I said just SHUT UP if you dont understand.
    Right back atcha, with a 'maybe you should learn to explain things better, ole chap' chaser.

    My theory and truth are the same thing because
    My theory = Truth
    The above quote= Lie.

    Like I said if you dont understand JUST shut up and just watch.
    Please stop accusing me of a lack of comprehension. I've been so good as to avoid accusing you of a shortage of gray matter.

    Why you people alwasy say "WE" / "US" why dont you use "I" / "ME"
    I do not speak only for myself, chum monkey. I speak for everyone you seek to snooker.



    I have proven.And you still keep talking like this,that means you dont understand.
    You have not proven. AT ALL.

    It is.
    ::Insert a ten minute break for uproarious, side splitting laughter::
    Ah..... comedy gold.

    I think that support already enough to prove my theory is the truth.
    You think wrong, child.

    IF square is the one make this theory you will believe it right away,why?
    Because you dont understand the Truth.
    You dont believe me because I,Viator the one who make this theory,why?
    Because You are too stupid to realized the truth.
    No, ass monkey. If Square said it, it would be law, since Square is in a position of authority over their own product, similar to how Lucas is in charge of Star Wars, and his word is law. You, my obstinant, obdurate little ferret, have no such authority, your 'truth' is a laughable conspiracy theory based on a dialogue uber alles fallacy, and your general behaviour definitely shows that you've got nothing substantial to offer, and that the only thing you've got going for yourself is your tenacity.

    By the By, your poor spelling and grammar, not helping your case any.

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    You STILL dont SHUT UP?
    That means I will just ignore you.
    Au revoir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryushikaze
    Quote Originally Posted by Viator
    It depends on circumtances.
    It NEVER depends on the circumstances. Repitition of an idea does not make that idea any more valid. An idea must be sound or unsound on its own merits

    If you still dont believe that Edea is STILL a sorceress never say that you understand my theory.
    No, I understand it fully. I also understand it's complete and utter BUNK. You're using the same tactics as the evangelicals. Stop proselytizing.

    If you say unnecessary you better shut up from now on.
    ...Squbba? Would redundant be better, then? The point is, your version of events requires so many unsupported claims it's ridiculuous. It is the antithesis of a parsimonious theory.

    That means you are idiot.
    Please note that there is a difference between insulting someone, and making that insult your entire argument. You are committing the latter, and that, good sir, is an Ad Hominem.
    And just to satisfy my curiosity, how does the 'plot hole' being absolutely nothing to the overall story make me an idiot? The leaps in logic involved should be incredibly entertaining.

    Like I said just SHUT UP if you dont understand.
    Right back atcha, with a 'maybe you should learn to explain things better, ole chap' chaser.

    My theory and truth are the same thing because
    My theory = Truth
    The above quote= Lie.

    Like I said if you dont understand JUST shut up and just watch.
    Please stop accusing me of a lack of comprehension. I've been so good as to avoid accusing you of a shortage of gray matter.

    Why you people alwasy say "WE" / "US" why dont you use "I" / "ME"
    I do not speak only for myself, chum monkey. I speak for everyone you seek to snooker.



    I have proven.And you still keep talking like this,that means you dont understand.
    You have not proven. AT ALL.

    It is.
    ::Insert a ten minute break for uproarious, side splitting laughter::
    Ah..... comedy gold.

    I think that support already enough to prove my theory is the truth.
    You think wrong, child.

    IF square is the one make this theory you will believe it right away,why?
    Because you dont understand the Truth.
    You dont believe me because I,Viator the one who make this theory,why?
    Because You are too stupid to realized the truth.
    No, ass monkey. If Square said it, it would be law, since Square is in a position of authority over their own product, similar to how Lucas is in charge of Star Wars, and his word is law. You, my obstinant, obdurate little ferret, have no such authority, your 'truth' is a laughable conspiracy theory based on a dialogue uber alles fallacy, and your general behaviour definitely shows that you've got nothing substantial to offer, and that the only thing you've got going for yourself is your tenacity.

    By the By, your poor spelling and grammar, not helping your case any.
    Hey man, where the smurf do you get off calling someone an "ass monkey" or a "child"? You entire argument is almost as devoid of logic as Viator's is. I am warning your post, just like you should have warned Viator's post when he called you an idiot instead of continuing to insult one another through name-calling.

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    This thread has gone far enough.

    Viator and Ryushikaze, making personal attacks simply because someone doesn't agree with your posts is unacceptable. Don't do it again.

    And I'd like to remind everyone in this thread to be a bit more respectful and not pick at each other's posts the way you guys have been doing.

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