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    EDIT: I found a better explaination in Notti's Deep Dungeon guide on gamefaq.com

    Quote Originally Posted by Notti
    Want high stats? Want REALLY high stats? Well keep on reading.... There is a
    method of doing this but it takes awhile, this is only for the type of people
    who in FF7 got all their characters up to really high stats with Sources. The
    basic theory is to level DOWN as a BAD job and then level UP as a GOOD job.
    Think of it as two steps forwards, and one step back. Keep on doing that and
    you're getting somewhere. De-Leveling down can be done in 2 ways. Degenerator
    traps(if you try to Teleport while on a trap and Teleport fails you will
    REACTIVATE the trap, use it. A Degenerator can be found in the DD... look at
    my DD maps above for the exact location) or the Monster Skill of a Mind Flare
    monster called Level Blast. Leveling up can be done in anyway you see fit
    however I have a tip or two Give your character Gained Exp UP and the
    Thief's Steal Exp Ability(and lots of Speed upping items and bonuses if
    possible). With this you can now steal EXP from your teammates/enemies and
    you SHOULD be going up 1 level every turn till you are at a moderate level.
    Another okay level up trick is to use Bard or Dancer skills plus Gained EXP
    Up(but this will take 2 castings, depending on how low your speed is this CAN
    come out more often, but for me it's usually less often BUT you don't have to
    worry about your teammates having enough EXP to steal). Another tip is once
    you have decimated the enemy, turn the last one into a Frog, Chicken, and put
    him to Sleep and then Petrify all members of the team that are not needed(so
    you don't have to "Wait" them). Another little trick to getting the last bit
    of EXP in one AT is to use Move-Gain EXP. And a final tip, who says you need
    to go all the way up to level 99 then back down to level 1? That's unwise...
    use my Steal EXP + Gained EXP Up trick and you should be able to get up to
    around level 65 by doing 65 Steal EXPs, re-enter the battle then use the
    degenerator/Level Blast, leave, then use Steal EXP again, repeat till you've
    got a god =D

    Well thanks to Aerostar's diligent work on his "Final Fantasy Tactics Battle
    Mechanics Handbooks" (available at any respectable game file download
    station) I finally have the information needed to make the following list
    accurate. To use this list you look for the LOWEST numbers to level UP as,
    and HIGHEST to level DOWN as. You don't need to understand why that is (seems
    backwards, eh?), but if you want to know more check out Aerostar's guide for
    the exact technical reasons. So, now, what you do with these numbers is to
    try and raise levels as the ++! and lower as the -?.

    Alterable | Non-Alterable
    HP MP SP PA MA | MV JU CEV
    SQ 11 15 100 60 50 | SQ 4 3 5%
    CH 12 16 100 -75? 50 | CH 3 3 5%
    KN 10 15 100 ++40! 50 | KN 3 3 10%
    AR 11 16 100 45 50 | AR 3 3 10%
    MO +++9! 13 100 48 50 | MO 3 4 20%
    PR 10 10 100 50 50 | PR 3 3 5%
    WI 12 +++9! 100 60 50 | WI 3 3 5%
    TI 12 10 100 65 50 | TI 3 3 5%
    SU 13 +++8! 100 70 50 | SU 3 3 5%
    TH 11 16 ++90! 50 50 | TH 4 4 25%
    ME 11 18 100 55 50 | ME 3 3 5%
    OR 12 10 100 60 50 | OR 3 3 5%
    GE 10 11 100 45 50 | GE 4 3 10%
    LA 10 15 100 ++40! 50 | LA 3 4 15%
    SA 12 14 100 45 50 | SA 3 3 20%
    NI 12 13 ++80! 43 50 | NI 4 4 30%
    CA -14? 10 100 70 50 | CA 3 3 5%
    BA -20? -20? 100 -80? 50 | BA 3 3 5%
    DA -20? -20? 100 50 50 | DA 3 3 5%
    MI +++6! -30? 100 ++35!++40! | MI 4 4 5%

    According to those numbers the most amazing job class to level UP as seems to
    be Mime, except it stinks in MP and is plain ol' average in Speed. And the
    BEST to go DOWN as is Bard or Dancer/Chemist, except those do have better
    than Mime MP growth and equal Speed growth. So basically if you DEGENERATE as
    a Dancer/Bard/Chemist and then level back up as a Mime you will get a very
    good increase in all stats EXCEPT MP, which will plummet, and Speed will stay
    the same (though technically, when growth numbers are equal, when level
    up/downing, at the end of the day you will have lost a teeny tiny bit of
    stat. Very small bits in the decimals. Level up/down enough and it will
    become noticable). Other great jobs to increase as would be the swift of foot
    Ninja. His Speed and PA is truly great. Speed being one of the harder & rarer
    and mor important stats to raise (5p33D rUL3zzz D00Dzz!!!!). Another
    important class is the Summoner. The reason for that is simply that neither
    Ninja nor Mime are good MP growers, not only is Mime not good, it is actively
    bad, being the absolute worst MP growth you can possibly get. If you don't
    want your godly character to have nil psychic stamina you'll need some
    buffing in the MP area with la Summoniers.

    Summed Up (doesn't include special characters):
    To Raise HP: UP Mime UP Monk DOWN Bard/Dancer DOWN Calculator
    To Raise MP: UP Summoner UP Wizard DOWN Mime DOWN Bard/Dancer
    To Raise SP: UP Ninja UP Thief DOWN NOT Ninja DOWN NOT Thief
    To Raise PA: UP Mime UP Knight/Lancer DOWN Bard DOWN Chemist
    To Raise MA: UP Mime DOWN NOT Mime
    Last edited by BG-57; 06-09-2006 at 12:34 PM.

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