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    Default For once Pres. Bush made complete sense on an issue, immigration.

    Anybody catch the Presidential address? Bush actually seemed very level headed during his speech, and his immigration policy seems good.

    Are there any valid reasons not to make laws stricter on illegal immigrants?
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    You DO know that he doesnt write his own speeches, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardboiled
    Are there any valid reasons not to make laws stricter on illegal immigrants?
    Cost and Time versus Effectiveness. Economy.
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    His policy is BS. In 2004 they fined 3 companies out of 5 million for hiring Illegal immigrants. He has not funded it and does not care to fund things to reduce illegal immigration. He just wants cheap labor for companies. His national guard move is laughable.

    This guy is a joke...well he always has been but it just keeps getting worse. *waits for Rove and Cheney to be indited in the Plame case*

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    Why do people always pick on Bush? Its not all his fault. His whole administration is screwing us over, but the poor fool gets all the blame.
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    He selected his administration.

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    so?
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    He knew what he was doing when he picked his administration. It was picked purely for business motives.
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    -.- whatever. Blame who you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acid Raine
    Why do people always pick on Bush? Its not all his fault. His whole administration is screwing us over, but the poor fool gets all the blame.
    He gets the blame because he is the one in charge. If he wanted things to change he could fire everyone in an instant and get a whole new administration but he likes what they do and defends them. It is his fault for supporting them and picking them in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acid Raine
    -.- whatever. Blame who you want.
    They already are. Who they want to blame just so happens to be who's at fault.

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    Bush is the boss and his administration is like (or is) his employees. If the employees do bad, so does George's business, and who do you think gets penalized for a bad business? His employees? No, Bush does, and ultimately, he decides what's what anyways (in a more simplistic view).

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    Sending the National Guard to help the border patrol is NOT a smart, level-headed move. And even though Bush promised that the National Guard would not help with the policing of the area around the border, I can easily see the border area turning into martial law.

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    National Guard - bad idea
    guest worker program - bad idea

    even good ideas like enforcement of immigration employment laws and amnesty for immigrants already here will probably be botched if his administration does it since his administration has proven itself completely incompetent at every single thing they do.

    this stupid immigration speech is just some publicity to take the public eye off the corruption investigations and Rove's pending indictment.

    if there was real justice in this world Bush would be dragged out into the public square and pelted with fruit.

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    Amnesty for immigrants is a terrible idea eest. That already happened once(NAFTA) and it isn't a solution now. It doesn't solve the problem and only helps to validate the problem by saying we give amnesty every so many years. Can't do it again this close to the last time.

    The real solution is charging a hefty fine towards place of employeement who knowingly employee illegals. Those fines would pay for the deportation and border security for a while to come. It would start to drive employeers to fire illegals they might have. If no one gives them a job then they will not come. It isn't a 100% sure fire plan but it is the best chance of massive reduction and reducing illegal immigration.

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