Quote Originally Posted by swingswing
just got the ragnarok on disc 3, now i need 2 find 6 steel pipes (to summon doomtrain) n i cant find any! i heard u can mug wendigos near the galbadian garden but i cant find any. cant play card games either to refine the elastoid cards (stupid random rule/same/plus/same wall/etc...cant win at all...)

also..wots this angel wing thing wit rinoa...
About the card game- it's pretty easy to manipulate the rules, and be rid of all of those very annoying ones. It may be a little time consuming (venturing back and forth from place to place), but it will pay off in the long run. I always spend a lot of time playing cards as you can refine a lot of very useful items early on in the game.

You may very well already know this, but in case you don't: just go to a place that has a set of rules (preferably only one that the troublesome spot doesn't have) pick up the rules (you don't even have to play- just cancel at the card game screen), return to troublesome spot, save, and play (or at least cancel at the game screen) until you get a message " 'so and so' rule has been abolished."

For example: play at Balamb picking up the "open" rule, go to dollet, which has "random" and, I think "elemental?" rule. Play a game mixing the two sets of rules until you see the message- reset if you don't get the desired result. Of course, open is a very good rule to have so you may want to repeat this twice until you get the message, "open" rule has spread throughout dollet."