im quite an experienced FF player and its not realy my strategys and skills. its just finding how to beat these. the first defeat is because i focussed all attack on one of them and the second was because i sold off most of the items that would be useful for the fight. i think i should leave the area and go find more stuff like odin and leviathan and hydra. BTW. i know where you get hydra but where do you get odin and leviathan? im sure the battle will be much easier with hydra and leviathan.