You only say that because Steve had more time to mature his skills as a bassist, he still is amazing, Cliff's career in Metallica only lasted about 4-5 years, he never had much of a time to prove his skill or get better. Steve is an excellent bassist, I agree with you there, but there's been more basslines written by Steve then by Cliff. I still stick to that opinion though. I'm just naughty with that type of stuff. for flea? Well I don't like indie rock all together and the guy hasn't done anything to impress me at all. Cliff just whacked up the bass beyond what a bass should sound like, his stuff sounds pretty well done, plus he shreds like a 220MPH demon.