Quote Originally Posted by Croyles
I felt sorry for France last world cup. They tried so hard, yet failed so miserably.
I disagree, their downfall was that they were so arrogant and over-confident that they were convinced they would thrash anyone. For example, before the tournament, Trezeguet and Henry had a bet about which one would be the golden boot winner. Neither scored a goal. Heck, France didn't score a goal, and I was pleased when they crashed out.

As for the England v Germany thing, extremely xenophobic "crap trash-culture newspapers" (to borrow a phrase from Croyles) are always going to drag up World War II, but really, I don't think there is any genuine hatred between England and Germany fans, just a bit of friendly rivalry after coming across each other so many times in important games (eg 1966, 1990, 1996, and I simply have to mention the 5-1 ) There will always be idiots on both sides who will harbour hate, but for the most part, it should be cordial.