Keyblade Confusion | Spoilers for KH1&2

[Moon Rabbits]

Okay so I don't get the lowdown with the crazy Keyblades these kids have been playing with lately.

In the first Kingdom Hearts Sora has a Keyblade, oui? Yes. And he modifies it using keychains...and I was under the impression that the Keyblade (stress /the/) chooses it's master and it chose Sora...but then alluva sudden there's two! Mickey has one, right? Right.

Where'd that Keyblade come from? I thought the Keyblade was some sort of mythical weapon that there is only one of.

And THEN the Keyblade goes to Riku (if I remember correctly it's because Sora's heart has a moment of weakness in Hollow Bastion, and then Sora gains his Keyblade) and Sora uses his wooden sword for a short bit...then he gets his Keyblade back.

Then we come to KH2 and Riku has a Keyblade called Way to Dawn...where did this one come from?

Roxas has a Keyblade, but I understand how because he's you know Sora's Nobody and all.

Then we come to Kairi, as much as I loved the fact she got a Keyblade I still don't get where it came from.

Then there's the secret video with millions of Keyblades.

Someone, please explain the enigmatic Keyblade to me.

[Tavrobel]

Mickey's Keyblade is assumed to be from the Dark World. Every World (series of planets, whatever you wanna call it as a classification), has a primary Keyblade of its own.

Riku was the original Master, but if you notice, when the Keyblade goes to Riku, it becomes the Kingdom Key again, because Sora has all the Keychains.

It's not Way to the Dawn until (SPOILER)You kill Saix, Xigbar, Luxord, and DiZ dies in WtNW. Until then, it is his Dark Blade, Soul Eater, that he used against Sora in KHI.

It's possible that Riku, as the Keyblade Master, can form Keyblades for those he cares about the most, or, it isn't a real Keyblade at all, just an anti-Nobody Sword in the shape of a Keyblade.

There is the theory that was developed, that for all of those who fought the Heartless, they each have a unique Keyblade of their own. It's simply that Sora and Mickey are able to control the Primary two. Assumptions based on this theory, would support that Riku and Kairi could also have a Keyblade also (although Riku could be exempt from this theory; he WAS the Master, so he is allowed to have his own), which explains why there are so many of them in the Graveyeard.

This will probably be explained more in depth in KHIII, or another spinoff. Or if I missed something, someone else could pick up and explain it further.

[Moon Rabbits]

Mickey's Keyblade is assumed to be from the Dark World. Every World (series of planets, whatever you wanna call it as a classification), has a primary Keyblade of its own.

I don't remember the game say anything about each world having a Keyblade.

Riku was the original Master, but if you notice, when the Keyblade goes to Riku, it becomes the Kingdom Key again, because Sora has all the Keychains.

But I /do/ remember the game saying something about that along the way...but in the first one. Could you tell me whereabouts this happens? And if Riku is the true Keyblade Master why can Sora wield one?

[Tifa's Real Lover(really]

he was jus the delivery boy

[Marche]

Yea but then he got the keyblade back so that kinda contradicts the messenger boy theory.

[TRANS_AM409]

Sora lost the keyblade cause he had dout in his heart and to use it you have to have a strong heart but he belived in him self agin and was going to fight even with the woden and the keyblade saw his courage and resolve so it returned to him

[Tavrobel]

I don't remember the game say anything about each world having a Keyblade.

But I /do/ remember the game saying something about that along the way...but in the first one. Could you tell me whereabouts this happens? And if Riku is the true Keyblade Master why can Sora wield one?

It's interpretable that Mickey's blade is the Dark World's Keyblade; the reason, is because compared to the Kingdom Key, Mickey's Keyblade has its colors reversed, symbolizing a reversal. The Dark World Keyblade is still good, but it is from the Dark World, which is a reason for the color change.

Darkness does not mean evil, only what dwells inside is Evil. This is based highly on the concept of balance between Light and Dark in FFIIIj, yet Good should always trounce Evil, and there should always be less Evil than Good.

Sora is able to wield it because he was the "Delivery Boy", as Riku claims. If you want something so important to reach the proper master, you'd have to be able to use it defend yourself.

However, since Riku had already left Destiny Islands in the first game by the time the Keyblade got there, it chose Sora instead. When encountered at Hollow Bastion, Sora loses the Keyblade because his Heart was going through a moment of weakness, probably brought on by Riku's questioning of Sora's motives, and challenging his will by psychological means.

When Riku loses the Keyblade again, by that point, Sora had proven that Heart was truly as strong as it could be, and Riku had given to the Darkness, showing absolute weakness. Keyblade does not like Weakness, and goes back to Sora. Fortunately for Riku, he still had the Soul Eater in order to duel Sora with, which eventually becomes the Way to the Dawn (a Keyblade).

The last theory is also supported by the fact that Anti-Form does not use the Keyblade. Anti-Form is the symbol of Sora giving in to the Darkness, even if only for a moment of weakness.

[TRANS_AM409]

Yeah darkness isnt always bad like at the end of KHII when sora and riku were going to go to the dark side to defete the evil there

[SeeDRankLou]

However, since Riku had already left Destiny Islands in the first game by the time the Keyblade got there, it chose Sora instead. When encountered at Hollow Bastion, Sora loses the Keyblade because his Heart was going through a moment of weakness, probably brought on by Riku's questioning of Sora's motives, and challenging his will by psychological means.

When Riku loses the Keyblade again, by that point, Sora had proven that Heart was truly as strong as it could be, and Riku had given to the Darkness, showing absolute weakness. Keyblade does not like Weakness, and goes back to Sora. Fortunately for Riku, he still had the Soul Eater in order to duel Sora with, which eventually becomes the Way to the Dawn (a Keyblade).

I would say that the keyblade chose Sora instead of Riku the first time because Riku had given into the darkness and showed that weakness, not because he wasn't there. He wanted so desperately to leave Destiny Island that he would turn to darkness as a means of leaving, and in doing that he lost him master standing. For the rest of KHI I agree with you.

If you look at the Soul Eater and the Way of the Dawn, does the Soul Eater have a keychain? Because if it doesn't (which I don't think it does), then doesn't the weapon he hold throughout the game have a keychain (which would make it the Way to the Dawn). If I'm wrong, then it's likely that when Ansem's machine blew up, and Riku was finally removed from the darkness, that his weapon may have become a keyblade, since he was finally worthy of one again.

It is possible that just like Sora (and Roxas) can hold two keyblades, Riku might be also have some means of holding two keyblades, and when he did he gave one to Kairi. Maybe....

What the keyblade is exactly has never really been explained. Xigbar however did mention that there have been those before Sora, so it's possible the there is a keyblade for every keyblade wielder, and if that's the case then there have been quite a few. Otherwise, one can only speculate.

[Tavrobel]

If I'm wrong, then it's likely that when Ansem's machine blew up, and Riku was finally removed from the darkness, that his weapon may have become a keyblade, since he was finally worthy of one again.

What the keyblade is exactly has never really been explained. Xigbar however did mention that there have been those before Sora, so it's possible the there is a keyblade for every keyblade wielder, and if that's the case then there have been quite a few. Otherwise, one can only speculate.

That's the assumption that I was working under, that Riku had earned his right back to have a Keyblade (not that he did a whole lot). I do think that Riku was supposed to have the Keyblade all along, but any interpretation is available, since the Keyblade never talks. Even Mickey's knowledge of the Keyblade is mostly supported by Ansem's research into the old legends, not from the fact that he uses it. I also use most of Xigbar's explanation for the Keyblade being available to all those who fight a Heartless.

However, it is still unexplained why Roxas can wield two. Sora obviously has the ability to do so, since Roxas has to siphon some of Sora's power to be a Nobody, Even in Valor, Master, and Final, Sora can use two.

In the Valor Form, it says that Sora can use the abilities of both Keyblades, but neither one of them do full damage, when fighting an enemy. Sora is just alot faster. It could be that in order to wield two, you must split the essence into two distinct parts, each giving half power, but the ability to wield two, which is even more dangerous, considering how untapped of the power of the Keyblade remains; this could mean an almost unlimited power, being split. Too bad Sora can't use Magic.

In Master form, Sora does not hold one of them. It could be possible, that the true ability of the Keyblade, is to cast Magic on its own, using the ability of the Master's mind, as well as being swung simultaneously to cause full damage.

Final Form, Sora holds neither of them, and I often find that they often cast Cure Magic/Reflega Magic when necessary, without draining my MP. It also does insaneo damage and combos. But this means that there are two, both having their full powers. This remains unexplained, and I wonder why it can be done.

It could be, since that if everyone who has ever fought a Heartless gets a Keyblade, that Roxas gets one, because he fights Heartless while he is still a part of Sora. When joined back together, that means two essences fighting a Heartless. That could equal why Sora can use two in Final Form, which is essentially Sora being helped out by Roxas, and therefore, being complete.

[TRANS_AM409]

one can speculate but may neva truly know

[leader of mortals]

here's my theory

I think that way to the dawn is not an actual keyblade, or kairi's key either. I also think that mickey's key is a reform of the true keyblade that sora got.

also on the "delivery boy theory", I think that when sora was struggling for riku, he was strong-hearted and got the keyblade, but when he saw Riku embracing the darkness, he lost it because of doubt. Also when he got it back it was because he saw kairi alive again.

as for the million other keys i think that they are fake.

That's my theory anyway.

[The Summoner of Leviathan]

I agree with most of what Tavrobel and SeeDRankLou have said, except for the part about everyone who fought the heartless might be able to wield a keyblade. If that were true, then wouldn't Donald and Goofy wield one too, especially in KHII? Same with Alladin, Simba, Beast, etc...I think keyblades are made from exceptionally strong hearts. Sora's was given birth by the Heart of All Worlds (Kingdom Hearts). I agree with Tavrobel that we can speculate that King Mickey's blade comes from the Realm of Darkness, as that was a path he had explored. Also this reinforced the recurring theme of duality within the series. Yet there is one thing. If they Sora's is the keyblade of light, then why not choose a Princess of Heart as its wielder? I spurned Riku because he became consumed darkness, yet chose Sora, though there is darkness within him. Maybe this plays on the whole idea that within light there is darkness and in darkness there is light. Therefore a true keybearer of Sora's would not be purely light (as in Kairi), but mostly light.

Remember that Riku can make an immatation keyblade. In Hallow Bastion in KHI, he created a keyblade of sorts that unlocked people's hearts, which Sora later used to free Kiari's heart and unintentionally give birth to Roxas. Since Riku gave Kiari one, we can assume he made hers, as he made one before.

If this makes no sense, it is because I am thinking as I typed it. ^_^;

[Tavrobel]

I agree with most of what Tavrobel and SeeDRankLou have said, except for the part about everyone who fought the heartless might be able to wield a keyblade. If that were true, then wouldn't Donald and Goofy wield one too, especially in KHII? Same with Alladin, Simba, Beast, etc...I think keyblades are made from exceptionally strong hearts. Sora's was given birth by the Heart of All Worlds (Kingdom Hearts). I agree with Tavrobel that we can speculate that King Mickey's blade comes from the Realm of Darkness, as that was a path he had explored. Also this reinforced the recurring theme of duality within the series. Yet there is one thing. If they Sora's is the keyblade of light, then why not choose a Princess of Heart as its wielder? I spurned Riku because he became consumed darkness, yet chose Sora, though there is darkness within him. Maybe this plays on the whole idea that within light there is darkness and in darkness there is light. Therefore a true keybearer of Sora's would not be purely light (as in Kairi), but mostly light.

Remember that Riku can make an immatation keyblade. In Hallow Bastion in KHI, he created a keyblade of sorts that unlocked people's hearts, which Sora later used to free Kiari's heart and unintentionally give birth to Roxas. Since Riku gave Kiari one, we can assume he made hers, as he made one before.

If this makes no sense, it is because I am thinking as I typed it. ^_^;

I too agree with most of what you said, although it does seem that Riku's Keyblade is an actual one; he did have the right to have one in the first place. Perhaps this was the way to make things balanced again, as is evidenced in their conversation after Xemnas was defeated, as well as the concept of balance featured in KH series. Maybe Donald and Goofy don't need a Keyblade, because they can fight without it. The same goes for the other NPCs. Would make a terribly boring party with a bunch of Keyblades flying around, hitting stuff, without much change of variety. It's a bunch of Red Mage Pirates flying around, terrorizing as they go.

[SeeDRankLou]

Remember that Riku can make an immatation keyblade. In Hallow Bastion in KHI, he created a keyblade of sorts that unlocked people's hearts, which Sora later used to free Kiari's heart and unintentionally give birth to Roxas. Since Riku gave Kiari one, we can assume he made hers, as he made one before.

Well, Riku couldn't do that until he was possessed by "Ansem," so he might not know how to do that. And, the keyblade was created using the hearts of the six captured princesses, so it might have been a special situation. However, maybe Riku remembers how "Ansem" did it, and maybe it wasn't a special situation. Who knows?