Quote Originally Posted by bipper
ShunNakamura: Red Hat has left a bad taste in my mouth since day one. Littlerally - the cardboard plasticy packageing is horrable on the stomach. Anyways; notice how I did not mention Lindows at all Red hat just seems to have that in between method of doing everything, and in my opinion, they lean to far toward vendor driven. In otherwords, release now, patch later deal. That is not what I, and many others look for out of linux. A secure release, and prefereably a configurable install. It is very noobie friendly, but tends to have too many issue to make a feasable enviroment anymore.

At work, I am currently fixing an array of fedora and Red hat related slip ups, as in sudden noboots and dropped partitions.

Simply put; I feel Redhat and fedora are simply bloated out of control and add too much with too little implimentation and testeing - leading to a rather unstable enviroment (a'la the Fedora board ). Using a program to start a service is very windows, and requires extra sepcialised, but simple, learning.
Our Fedora Core 4 really didn't have many issues with us(other then the dratted book dispite being released the same year was already behind and the concepts had changed already). RedHat though I will admit I had issues with. We had to install it from scratch and configure it for part of our final(the other part being lindows and that was just... no comment). It just didn't feel as smooth as the Fedora or other ones we used. Though obviousally better then Lindows.

And in case you want to know we had to install some sort of MUD and get the service going on Lindows. We were told that it was one of the rougher ones to install. Not too bad but talk about jumping throw hoops to get it to work.
Quote Originally Posted by Bipper
Slack tends to have you start a program service via a command - which can be cumbersome, but it leads to the greatest learning of what a program can actually do. Also, if you find yourself runing huge lines of code to start a program <b>to your specifications</b> you can easily write a script hands on and sexy. Need I say more.
We actually did alot of that with Fedora to tell the truth. That may have been mostly due to our instructor though. So my experience of Fedora/Redhat may have been clouded through that. But alot of it was not done automatically for us(he set up the base installs for our initial Fedora learning box).


And I am glad that Gentoo is still such a long install.. that is what made it so attractive to me.