A Sequel

[Skyblade]

Was thinking of the sequel and thought up another one of those annoying things of FFTA: Equipting.

We all know of the annoyance of changing class and having to re-equip your character. I personally change classes often to avoid laws because I often forget about the laws and so I try to make it impossible for me to screw up. If it wasn't for the annoying re-equipment I would definetly skill train (change to a class to gain skills but change out to more powerful class for stats when lvl up comes up).

The feature would be the simple "Best Equip". We all know this if you played the FF1 remake. This feature would basically equip the best item available.

Okay let's go through a play by play:
1. You change Marche from a thief to a ninja
2. You goto the equip screen and see five blank slots
3. You hit (insert button here) and you become equipped with the best Katana (judged by Weapon power), best armor (Judged by Wep. Def. plus Magic Def.), best helmet (same as armor), best shield (if applicable, same as helmet), best accesory (combined stat increase, 2nd accesory if no shieldf)

Since the Pro's are obvious here are the cons
-Does not factor in special like ability's (angel rings auto life, Fire robe's fire immunity)
-Does not factor in special stats (evade, move, jump)
-Does not factor in Skills taught (Double sword, counter)
-Does not factor in use of Double sword
-You may have to re-equip anyway causing just as much frustration as an empty screen

So even though these are some heavy bad points I can not think of anything that would really work without alot of proggramming.

The alternative path would be Equipment sets but this would be very confusing to make do-able

More later

IIRC, the original FFT had a best equip too, and I wouldn't mind including that. I wouldn't use it much myself, since I usually disagree with others on what is "best", but I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate it.

I'm looking over your posts, Kanno. You have some very nice ideas. I'll get back to you on them in detail in a couple days.

Mine will be better than theirs. I better try to talk to them about it.

[boys from the dwarf]

i think you may have already answered this but, can i ask.

what are you planning to do with all this information and planning?

it seems pointless to do it for nothing.

oh yeah. i guess as the FFTA expert of this site, your looking forwards to the sequel.

[Wolf Kanno]

He's going to make something really nice

[DarkHeat787]

I was wondering, even though you said we could suggest things, if we could suggest new classes and ability sets?

I like to do that kind of thing.

Edit: Nevermind, I didn't read the whole topic. Whenever I see something that I want to participate in, I jump right on it without checking everything. x__x;;


Edit Two: I made one, use it as you see fit?

New Class: Corsair
Race: Human
Prerequisites: 2x Theif A-Abilities
+A-Ability
- Loot
Steals random item from enemy, low accuracy. 1-panel range.
- Mug
Same as Soldier ability.
- Careless Cutting
Damages an enemy, user receives 1/2 damage dealt as damage. 1-panel range.
- Shipwreck (30 MP)
Causes Immobilization to all units standing in or on water panels. Targets whole field.
- Ruthlessness (14 MP)
Increases Weapon Attack of all Theives, Corsairs, Ninjas, and Assassins on the field, no matter firend or foe.
- Greed (30 MP)
Takes all experience from friendly targets until user's next turn.
- Cannonshot (10 MP)
Normal damage from a distance.
+R-Ability
- Countermug
Counters successful physical attacks from enemy units with Mug.
+S-Ability
-Seafaring
Allows Corsairs to walk over water tiles.
+C-Ability
- Pirate Combo
Unleashes a foolproof combo attack on an enemy.

[Sam250]

Well, hi! I'm new here.
I just read though all this (yes ALL SEVEN PAGES of it! Grrrr) and would just like a say, wow. There are some brilliant ideas here, i especally love Wolfs idea about the Tutorial Clan with the Evil cute Moogle and his Henchman, thats brilliant.

And Kudos to Sky for doing all this. Im not optmistic as to where this will go, as a FFA sequal has recently been annonced (unless Sky already sent in his ideas. If so, WOOOO!), but even if it dosn't go anywhere, Wolf and Skys story together would make a brilinant FanFiction.

BTW, i'm loving your Female Villan Wolf, i think she should be like the Character who keeps coming to fight you evenery now and again, like Beatrix from FF9, Seymor from FF10, or that Dude from FFTA (can't remember his name).

Also, in regards to your other Villians, i think that each of them should be a King or Leader of each of the invading counties (there were going to be multiple invading counties, weren't there. It was so long ago i was reading that bit, lol, mabye i read it wrong).

Lastly, where did you stand on the idea of the Giants Sky? Personally, i think that including another Race would be great, and some of the Giant ideas seem really good. They don't have to be huge 4 square beasts, ambye just the size of dragons that fit onto 1 square? I duno, mabye it is a bad idea, but i think having giants as an unlockable class later in the game (thery would be your enemies to satrt with) is a great idea! Your call though.

[Skyblade]

Ok, I've been going over all the information, but before I make another update, I want all of your opinions: Since Square-Enix has decided to make their own sequel (even if theirs is inferior to mine), should I keep this idea going, switch it to a fanfic or RPG in the writer's corner section, or abandon it completely?

[DarkHeat787]

Keep it going and don't switch it. Make a ROM or something.

I so want FFTA groodness. That doesn't get as old fast...

*needs new gamez*

Also, I'll edit this later with a new class. o.o

EDIT: Whee!

New Class: Shade
Races: Human, Nu Mou, Moogle
Prerequisites: 7x Black Mage A-Abilities
+A-Ability
- Dark (10 MP)
Inflicts a small amount of Dark damage to one target.
- Darkra (20 MP)
Inflicts some Dark damage to one target.
- Darkga (32 MP)
Inflicts massive Dark damage to one target.
- Increased Gravity (20 MP)
Causes Immobilize on one target.
- Curse (60 MP)
Causes Curse on one target.
- Pain (50 MP)
Causes some Dark damage and Poison, Darkness, and Silence on one target.
- Disease (50 MP)
Causes some Dark damage and Disable and Immobilize on one target.
- Doom (60 MP)
Causes Doom on one target.
- Soul Divide (30 MP)
Halves a single target's current MP.
- Heart Divide (30 MP)
Halves a single target's current HP.
+R-Ability
- Tossback
Counters a spell with the same spell with 1.5x power but 0.5x accuracy.
+S-Ability
- Hide in Shadows
Increases Evade when equipped.
+C-Ability
- Evil Combo
Unleashes a foolproof combo attack on the enemy.

Obviously you'd want to use Half MP with a Shade.

[Sam250]

(even if theirs is inferior to mine)

Of course, lol!

should I keep this idea going, switch it to a fanfic or RPG in the writer's corner section, or abandon it completely?

No! Don't abbandon this idea. I spent the best part of an hour reading all your ideas and i think it would be unfair to let this come to nothing.
I think Wolf should write a Fanfic for this, his characters and Character development is great. Really, i enjoyed reading about them. Mabye Sky and Wolf should work together on it. And as for all those classes people have been working on, mabye some sprites? Any Pixel Artists here?

Hey, for all we know SE have been following this thread and FFTA2 is based on your ideas! Lol...oh well, we can dream....

EDIT: Oh, Btw Sky, even if you do decide to abbandon this, give us one last update anyway, just to see where all this has gone, please?

[Wolf Kanno]

I too, agree that you should continue Sky. You've put too much work into this just to abandon it. I think, once you get some more time to work out a few ideas and get the thread moving again, developement will start up again and you can get more help with this.

[boys from the dwarf]

if it was a fanfic, all of these ideas could be used.

perhaps we could also make an RP about it.

we cant just abandon this.

[DarkHeat787]

^Agreed.

And yes, he has worked to hard to quit now.

[Fireblade13]

Wolf should go ahead and try a fanfic as it would fill in the story quite nicely. Anyone know where I could go for info on FFTA2? Is it even going to be a improvement on Marhce or the original?

Thank you Sam for complimenting the Giant idea but as Sky said the classes were too many and we needed to look at other things.

As far as ditching this idea I would say definetly not. Maybe start another thread as a v2 so that someone like Sam doesn't have to spend an hour reading posts. Just make any viable suggestions as a 2nd post in the v2 thread.

[Wolf Kanno]

I'll wait for Sky to give an answer before I do anything. Besides, I don't know what Sky wants as far as the story and characters go. If you want, PM if you have suggestions or info Sky. That goes for everyone as well. Just remember, this is Sky's project so we should be respectful towards his wishes.

I like the idea of starting a new thread, I really want to see this project through.

[Sam250]

Ok, i've got idea for a new Job.

Its a Moogle job (and mabye Nu Mu), i havn't thought of a name but listen to what he does.

He basically can manipulate his surroundings including the terrian, as well as dead bodies and rocks/trees.

A-Abilities:
Raise: Rasies terrian square one level.
Raisia: Raies Terrian square 2 levels
Lower: Lowers terrian square one level
Loweria: Lowers terrian square 2 levels
(there could also be similar abilites that effect more then one square. The point of these abilites is to give tattical adavtages, for example raiseing an archer very high so that only arrows or magic can reach her, or making "stairs" up to a high place)
Move: Teleports an inaimate object (rock, tree, corpse)
(this could be used to make barriars, like surrounding an archer so that only long range attacks can reach her, but she can attack freely, or placing object behind and to the side of soliders so that ther can't be attacked from behind. There are other uses too)

I'll add more ideas as i think of them, but i thought it would be cute that this Job could have garden tools as its wepons, like rakes and the like. What do you think.

[tailz]

dont abandon it completley. you can always make it into a fanfic if neceserey just dont trow it away.


oh and havent we agreed to stop on the jobs.