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    all he did was say if you two lawyers can't determine <i>what room to interview a witness in</i> then you will play rock paper scissors and whoever wins gets to pick the room. He didn't make any legal decision by chance. He was just trying to resolve a petty dispute in an impartial manner while simultaneously showing his irritation at the lawyers who couldn't even agree on a neutral site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bipper
    No, this is wrong. A judge cannot force manipulate any party's case. The way the lawyers were argueing, the judges should have said I need a decision in 1 minute, or ordered a recess. The judge cannot make decissions for the defending/prosicuting party.
    I imagine they had been arguing for more than a minute already, and what was the judge to do if a decision couldn't be reached? He couldn't throw the case out, because the defendant's lawyer would just have to dick around until that happened. He couldn't order it in a particular room (I don't know why, TBH, that seems like a perfectly reasonable thing for a judge to do, but apparently they can't do this). So he did something to show how petty the lawyer's disputes were, and try to resolve it.

    Justice is not a game of chance. Its a game of liying, cheating, stealing, and whatever it takes to get an acceptable and presentable truth.
    But it is still a game. :rolleyes2

    What's the betting it becomes "Best two out of three"?
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    Point standing, if they cannot agree on somthing - nothing should happen. The judge can't even simply say, "You are going here, and you are going here" and that room. There had to be a reason that one wanted this and the other wanted that. A judge will give each side equal and fair treatment. That is his responsability. Nothing is fair about making decisions based on chance.

    And yes, it is a game metephorically speaking:rolleyes2

    one more thing. This is the argument:
    The argument was over a location to take the sworn statement of a witness in an insurance lawsuit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bipper
    Point standing, if they cannot agree on somthing - nothing should happen. The judge can't even simply say, "You are going here, and you are going here" and that room. There had to be a reason that one wanted this and the other wanted that. A judge will give each side equal and fair treatment. That is his responsability. Nothing is fair about making decisions based on chance.
    Nothing... is meant to happen? So he just sits there for hours, days, weeks, while the lawyers argue over some pathetic and trivial point, using up his time which could be spent adjudicating something worthwhile, and using up the courtroom which could be used to investigate a matter of more importance than which room a witness is interviewed in?

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    The case moves on as it normally would. Been in a very similar situation while I was waiting for my friend's round on a driving after revocation. One gentelman's representation was unable to decide exactly how to present certain information, so the judge gave him 5 minutes, then 1 more. He then told the lawyer if he could not wrap it up, the judge would have to move along with the rest of the trial. In this case; the representation began speaking and stuttered his way through the case. Needless to say, the defence (which we was representing) lost that one.

    I am also wondering why it mattered... where they took the sworn statement. Is that usually not part of standard procedure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bipper
    That is just Reatarded. That judge should be beaten and sent to mexico. The lawyers were arguing for a reason, and silly games of chance is no foundation for a government.
    why to Mexico???

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathKnight
    Quote Originally Posted by bipper
    That is just Reatarded. That judge should be beaten and sent to mexico. The lawyers were arguing for a reason, and silly games of chance is no foundation for a government.
    why to Mexico???
    Kind of a satirical irony on my view of legalizing illegal immigrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eestlinc
    all he did was say if you two lawyers can't determine <i>what room to interview a witness in</i> then you will play rock paper scissors and whoever wins gets to pick the room. He didn't make any legal decision by chance. He was just trying to resolve a petty dispute in an impartial manner while simultaneously showing his irritation at the lawyers who couldn't even agree on a neutral site.
    My thoughts exactly. I find it very amusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bipper
    I am also wondering why it mattered... where they took the sworn statement.
    It doesn't matter. That's why this stupid way of choosing also doesn't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bipper
    Quote Originally Posted by DeathKnight
    Quote Originally Posted by bipper
    That is just Reatarded. That judge should be beaten and sent to mexico. The lawyers were arguing for a reason, and silly games of chance is no foundation for a government.
    why to Mexico???
    Kind of a satirical irony on my view of legalizing illegal immigrants.
    Yeah, but you know what's funny, I'd like to see the majority of americans which happen to be caucasians driving taxis, cleaning bathrooms, working their asses off in farms, etc. Legalizing immigrants is the only happy way. Though, I do believe the border NEEDS to be sealed off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roto13-ness
    Quote Originally Posted by bipper
    I am also wondering why it mattered... where they took the sworn statement.
    It doesn't matter. That's why this stupid way of choosing also doesn't matter.
    And how do you know it did not matter? The room could have a lot to do with the out come of the case. Mabey it affects the witness in some questionable way and requires stepping out of certain boundries to do so. There could be a legitimate debate on whether it IS relevant or not, as we ARE talking about takeing swarn statements and not the entire interview as stated. If it matters or not, this is no way for a judge to act. I am generally glad that he scolded the lawyers; but mocking them in such away is equally as unprofessional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeathKnight
    Quote Originally Posted by bipper
    That is just Reatarded. That judge should be beaten and sent to mexico. The lawyers were arguing for a reason, and silly games of chance is no foundation for a government.
    why to Mexico???
    Kind of a satirical irony on my view of legalizing illegal immigrants.
    Yeah, but you know what's funny, I'd like to see the majority of americans which happen to be caucasians driving taxis, cleaning bathrooms, working their asses off in farms, etc. Legalizing immigrants is the only happy way. Though, I do believe the border NEEDS to be sealed off.
    haha. Lets keep it to topic though that is why I just left a bit of a hiddenist bit in my message.
    Bipper

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    Seems like someone was in a rush to watch the footie....

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    nobody in the US watches "footie"

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    Quote Originally Posted by eestlinc
    nobody in the US watches "footie"
    Quoted for truth. Now if you say American Idol, THAT'S a different story.

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