Quote Originally Posted by Viator
Time in FF8 is infinite by the proof past,present and future exist at the same time
Okay, repeat after me. If all time exists alongside itself, it does not necessarily follow that it is infinite.

Even you can compress all time into a single point there's always time outside of that single point.
Note the direct contradiction in his own statement.

If you absorbing time into a single point all of time will always keep going inside that single point to create A New Dimension of Time.
And as always, this is in no way functionally different than compressed time.

When he did that his explanation also has flaws.
That may be so, but I have loads less than you.

You have to know that this is only Odine's Speculation about TC.
Odine is a writer's convenience, a damn genius, and nothing ever actually contradicts his speculation, execpt your equivocation and misreading of Ulti's scan info.

This is exactly what I said
Absorbing time will make A New Dimension of Time where Any Dimension of Time (past,present,future and whatnot) exist together in That New Dimension of Time.

This New Demension of Time will keep contain All Time (past,present,future and whatnot) because time is infinite the process of absorbing time will go on forever, that's why there's 2 Ultimecias, The First Ultimecia will keep absorbing time to make The New Dimension of Time and The Second Ultimecia Ultimecia will/can reign in That New Dimension of Time.
You admit your result is functionally identical, but you add extra terms for which there is no evidence for, and some evidence against.

Mind your own bussiness.
This is my business.

Quote Originally Posted by me
Look closely folks, he just equivocated from an earlier post.
That explanation is true.
Folks, please look, he just admitted to equivocating- attempting to use two different definitions interchangably for his own ends.

I see I still dont understand.
I edited this quote to make it more true.

In finite time Future will exist after time reached "that" period.
But in infinite time future exist just like the past and present.
In FF World past,present and future exist at the same time that means time is infinite in FF8 World.Understood?
And like I told you before, finite time does NOT preclude the future existing alongside the past and present.
Put another way- YOUR DEFINITION OF FINITE IS WRONG, OR YOU ARE DELIBERATELY EQUIVOCATING.

See? you always demand Me to prove something while you cant prove time is finite.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. 'Infinite' anything is incredibly extraordinary.

I am afraid I already prove it many times and you never prove time is finite.
You've never proved infinite time. You've tried to handwavium, technobabble your way into saying that completely irrelevant details prove infinite time.

You better ask those scientists because I am tired talking to you or maybe you should buy books about that and read it until you can understand.
Concession accepted. If you cannot support a claim on your own, DO NOT BRING IT UP. Appeals to authority will not be welcomed.

Wrong.
Concession accepted. Time is a function of the known universe, and did not exist before BB.
You must actually address points, child.

I only bringing up god not God.
Still a sky pixie. There is as much evidence for any god you care to mention as infinite time.

You still need Me to explain it..?
If you cant understand that while I bother talking about that any further.
CONCESSION ACCEPTED. IF YOU CANNOT EXPLAIN OR SUPPORT YOUR POINTS, DO NOT BOTHER TO MAKE THEM.

TC is Magic.Ultimecia really wants to compress time even She realized Time is infinite because She really wants to compress time that's why She called that Magic Time Compression.
The Fact is that Magic actually absorbing time, simple as that.
Fact is, in your last post, you said only Ulti can truely be knowledgeable of TC. In this post, you now claim to know more than Ulti.

You always give bad counterpoint to My explanations.
Your counterpoint to My explanations doesnt make any sense at all.
Garbage in, garbage out. Your explanations, quite simply, aren't.

You said "there's no time before Big Bang" while I already give the explanation that there's already time before Big Bang but
you just keep saying "before Big Bang there's no time" and ignore My explanations which are true, this is only to show that you lack of knowledge.
Time has no meaning in a singularity. It only 'works' in a universe of change. In the massive singularity, there is no such thing as our universe's time.

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'Scientists agree' won't cut it. Sources!
And BTB 'The big band did not happen in a pre-existing space and time' supports MY positions.
And even if time existed before the big bang- sure, let's entertain the notion, what's to say it extends endlessly?
Of course, let's look at Ulti. Why would she want to compress beyond the beginning of the universe, when her goal is THE UNIVERSE.

I wonder what kind of books did you read.
I wonder back twice, since you're the one spouting psuedoscience at me.

You always demanding Me to prove My Argument while you never ever satisfy with it and you counterpoint it with bad argument(i.e time is finite) to destroy My explanation and so far you cant prove that time is finite and you just keep talking like that to ignore My explanation/The Fact Time is infinite.
Did you ever stop to think that it's because you suffer the burden of proof and have never, not once, actually satisfied that burden?

The best way to face someone like you is ignore it.
And Of course I cant just ignore you.
It actualy just waste of time for Me to talking with someone like you, someone that cant even find himself guilty while everyone else can.Doesnt that mean you dont have any feelings at all.
No. It means I don't fear or follow the rules of a magical sky pixie who tells me I've been bad. This does not mean I'm an unfeeling monster.