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    To be fair, the developers aren't the question--some of us like to have coherent explanations in-game for in-game issues.

    And while it's an interesting idea that Ultimecia painted them (I've seen it done in fanfics before and done well), I don't buy into the theories as a whole.
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    In the Garden Sleeps a Messenger...

    Trauma pops out behind you. Ahh!

    You fight him, and you beat him.

    Bye bye room with paintings!

    ... That's about it. Yeah. It's a puzzle. Did you ever think it could have referred to Trauma, who is a messenger or knight of Ulti, that happened to be sleeping in a room with a lot (or a garden) or paintings?

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    You think Ultimecia can draw or paint?
    Everybody can draw or paint.


    1)How do you know that Ultimecia painted the paintings?
    I already said that I dont want to argue about this painter thing.
    If you dont believe it who cares.

    I tend to think that we have to consider the 'Greek' term of 'messenger', that being 'angelos', especially since the whole thing has a 'genesisy' feel. 'In the Garden sleeps an angel' (Diablos is a dark messenger, a dark angel) Who wears angel wings and spend some time in a coma in Garden?
    How the hell Ultimecia can know anything about Diablos?
    How the hell Ultimecia knows that Diablos sleeps in the Magic Lamp?
    Diablos has nothing to do with Ultimecia.
    So the Man in that painting describe Squall.

    The meaning of Vividarium et Intervigilium et Viator is In the Garden Sleeps a Messenger.
    Ultimecia is the one who make that painting.Ultimecia painted a Man sleeps in the garden.And this man is a messenger.
    Garden represents Viator’s life in the perspective of Ultimecia.
    If you look at the face of that Man you will actually see Squall’s face.
    YES The Man in that painting IS Squall in the eyes of Ultimecia.That Man represents Squall.
    Viator IS Squall Leonhart.
    Viator sleeps and he will wake up someday to deliver message.
    Squall Leonhart ; Sleeping Lionheart.
    This Lion/Squall will wake up someday.
    It’s a bad situation if you know the Lion is awake. This Lion/Squall will KILL You/Ultimecia if He/Squall wakes up.
    Remember Odin said “The Heaven hath decreed Thy Fate PERISH BY MY SWORD!”(btw this is not the case I just take the example)
    if you fail to fight Odin after time is over.
    It’s the same thing,"Squall will decree Ultimecia’s Fate PERISH BY HIS SWORD!"
    So Squall is Messenger of Fate for Ultimecia.
    That Message/Secret is Ultimecia’s Fate.
    2)In the painting with the title "Tree-lined road" it´s not a person that you see in fact it´s a chocobo take a good look at it and you´ll see it"
    You are right that is chocobo.I thought there's Someone ride that chocobo.
    But still the meaning still the same.

    Xystus/Tree-lined road represents "The Never Ending Journey".Ultimecia painted Someone in that painting.And this Person run through the Tree-lined road.You dont need to know who this Person is,I wont tell you.

    Inandantia/Flood represents “Powerful Force”.Ultimecia has powerful magic.
    Flood can destroy everything in its path.Ultimecia want to show that her power can destroy everything.
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    Why would Ultimecia bother painting /after/ she started going crazy, though?
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    She had nothing better to do cause she was always stuck in the castle:rolleyes2

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    Why would Ultimecia bother painting /after/ she started going crazy, though?
    That is the way how She show her feelings about something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viator
    Why would Ultimecia bother painting /after/ she started going crazy, though?
    That is the way how She show her feelings about something.
    I kind of figured she was showing her feelings by compressing time. But I don't know, because that's just a completely random guess out of nowhere. I mean, Time Compression? Psh, I probably just pulled that right outta my ass, didn't I? What the hell do Time Compression and Ulti's anger have anything to do with each other?

    Boy, I sure am crazy. :rolleyes2

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    What the hell do Time Compression and Ulti's anger have anything to do with each other?
    What do you mean?Can you explain it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viator
    What the hell do Time Compression and Ulti's anger have anything to do with each other?
    What do you mean?Can you explain it.
    Gosh, I hate explaining sarcasm haha.
    I was being sarcastic, it was a joke. It's possible that Ulti would express her feelings through paintings, but anything's possible. However, we know that Ulti compressed time out of anger and the feeling of hatred... and well, because she's evil, and she wants to take over the world and whatnot. The paintings were a mere puzzle for you to figure out to reach Trauma... Take the Catoblepas puzzle, for instance. z0mg!! Th0se boxes must have to do with Ulti somehow! Mebbeh the order that the boxes had to be opened and closed has to do with how she raped the white SeeDs and then used to have a husband who is actually Rajin in the future! It all makes sense now.

    I'm a bit too harsh, aren't I? =\

    Anyway, I'm pretty sure I've gotten my point across.

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    Well, a little harsh, but your point stands; I can see Ultimecia as a painter before she went nuts, but that's fanfic material. After she started her plan, I don't see her using paintings as anything but maybe decoration or trapping; she's expressing her feelings by trying to compress time already, why do overkill?
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    How can you know She went nuts?
    I dont think Ultimecia is crazy or something like that.She just want to find the Truth by achieve TC.
    She wants to achieve TC because She has her own reason.
    Well you can express your feelings through painting right?
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    If we assume that Ultimecia isn't crazy, then certainly, she might've had reason to paint these things. She just didn't /act/ particularly sane, from what I saw. She acted more like a megalomaniacal psycho.
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    Of course She is not crazy.
    Just because you see Her like crazy doesnt mean She is crazy.
    And I never see Her do anything crazy.
    I think She acted like .... Well I cant describe it.
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    Yeah. She went nuts with the make-up on her face too. Maybe she IS an artist.

    Though... Adel... I don't know if that's make-up... S/he was just as messed up like Ulti. *shrug*

    Seriously though... If the paintings were of ANYTHING else, people could STILL make theories about them, no matter what. Everything can be perceived a certain way and twisted to connect Ulti.

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    That paintings painted by Ultimecia just to show Her feelings about something.So that means all the painting has its own meaning and I already solved that mystery.
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