necron??? (spoilers maybe)

[Goldenboko]

I have to agree with The Crystal look how few people said that this was just another plot hole.
http://forums.eyesonff.com/showthread.php?t=62888

['Gilgamesh']

Put simply Necron is the true form of the Lifa Tree.

[Zeromus_X]

Zeromus_X said:
"*Iifa Tree
Necron does not have a back story. Why do people feel the need to explain things that aren't supposed to be explained? It's a fantasy RPG, they can have a little lee-way.
Now,
*repeats what was already said before, in the thread*"

In my opinion, everyone that say something like this, is trying to bash the game. People analyse things that don't have explanations, in FFVII and FFVIII, but when they are talking about FFIX, instead of trying to analyse the game(and find some answers to the mysteries), they just say "this is just a plot hole", just because they don't like the game, and try to make the game seem to be crap.
Of course that i can be wrong about you Zeromus_X, but this is the impression that i feel, when someone talk like this about the game.
And about Necron, me and Goldenboco already give the most logical explanation about his existence.

Trust me, I'm not bashing the game. Nor do I think it's a plot hole, I wouldn't see why Deus ex Machina are all plot holes as then you'd have a great chunk of the series that would have 'plot holes'.

Well, to be perfectly honest, FFIX doesn't really require much thought to figure it out. FFVII and VIII were always ambiguous and had lots of symbolism and what-not (and many things answered in the Ultimania guides), but FFIX was pretty straight forward. Seeing as how FFIX is a tribute to the series, it isn't so hard to accept that Necron is just a Deus ex Machina final boss that the creators put in for kicks (see: Cloud of Darkness, Zeromus, X-Death). I'm not really a fan of over-analyzing games, since most information can be taken from the game or from Squre's nifty official guide books. But, to each their own.

Put simply Necron is the true form of the Lifa Tree.

It might be hard to see, but it's really a capitalized 'I'. (FFIX's font doesn't help this much.) It's really Iifa Tree. 'Lifa Tree' would've made the 'Tree of Life' symbolism a bit more obvious though.

[VengefulRonin]

So Necron's the Iifa Tree? Havent heard that theory before...but it makes the most out of any i've seen.

As for what Zeromus said about IX being straightforward and not needing much thinking....well, for the most part, i'd have to agree. However, there are questions that involve thinking, such as the ones about Vivi, Kuja, Quina, and Necron.

Also....i agree with Zeromus about the name of the Iifa Tree, it has a stupid spelling. The "Lifa" Tree woulda made alot more sense, and for the first couple files i really did think that's what it was...

[Terror of Zanarkand]

Necron was also a boss in FinalFantasy IV the part did not succeed in killing him so gilgamesh (before they turned him into a guardian force) came into the battle and complained about how the group left him in the darkness he then sacrifices himself to kill Necron and save the party and somehow returns for FFVIII

[Terror of Zanarkand]

oops i ment FFV

[Terror of Zanarkand]

in FFI Kuja was a toy doll that some brat was bragging about owning
and also in FFI garland was the first and the last boss... he was a black knight who kidnapped the princess to the chaos shrine

other refrences

chaos shrine- FFI go there to fight lich and garland

wind shrine-FFI go there to fight Tiamat

fire shrine- go there to fight Maliris

water shrine- FFI go there to fight Kraken.

basically FFIX has a bit of every finalfantasy in it whether it be character ability music or name of town or item or boss ^.^

[Zeromus_X]

Necrophobia and Necron are only even remotely related by having a similar name. Necron's name in the Japanese version is 'Darkness of Eternity', so that doesn't stick even further.

And yes, FFIX is cool like that.

[Goldenboko]

I know that it is a tribute but that doesn't mean it can't have a place in the story all the other tributes did.

[Ozmoid]

I have my own theory, which ties into the fangame i'm making(see the sig?)
Necron is actually Gaia's equivalent of the Devil. He is what transformed Garland into Chaos in ff1(by the way, they do talk about him trying to take gaia by force in the past, alluding to the cycle of wrath) I doubt he is the eidolon reffered to on the wall, but he may be an eidolon of some description. The idea of him being sealed in the iifa crystal is probably wrong. When Kuja broke it, life just stop happening, and everyone was transported to hell, the Zero World. By destroying Necron, there was nowhere for dead people to go, so they were emptied back into gaia. I have very little evidence to support this theory, but i think it's interesting...

[The Crystal]

Another thing that i remember now, and that make the final battle with Necron have more sense in the story, is that before you fight against Trance Kuja, he said something like "The process of assimilation between Gaia and Terra is already begun, and now, even me cannot do nothing to stop it". This is why, after the heros deffeat Kuja, they have to deffeat Necron.

['Gilgamesh']

Iifa Tree eh, and I thought I knew all there was to know in the game lol.

I'll back up my Necron theory a bit.
As I said I think Necron is the Iifa Tree. It is the mechanism that interferred with the cycle of souls.
Certain things Garland says backs this theory as well:

"The role of the Iifa Tree is that of Soul Divider. The Mist you see comprises the stagnant souls of Gaia.
" All you saw was the back of the tree.....Even now the Iifa tree blocks the flow of Gaia's souls, while it lets those of Terra flow freely. Come and see for yourself. See the true form of the planet.

" To prevent the cycle of judgement of souls on Gaia from inside the planet. Such is the Iifa tree's true purpose, it's true form. All you saw was it's material form. The flow of Gaia's souls can not be changed simply by stopping the disposal of the mist"

I believe when Kuja cats Ultima the party practically dies which is why they come face to face with Necron the interferrer of the cycle of souls. The Iifa tree.


Material form Iifa tree.
Inside or its true form, the non material form, Necron.


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[Goldenboko]

Ozmoid I don't want to shoot you down... but your theory kind of comes from no where.
First off it never showed Kuja breaking the Crystal many people just assume he did. And even if Kuja did break the Crystal all life wouldn't die, there would just be no new life (see bolded quote)

Necron
"I exist for one purpose..."
"To return everything back to the zero world, where there is no life and no crystal to give life."

Also if you notice it says to return everything to the zero world, Kuja didn't destroy all life, that's Necron's job. 'Gilgamesh' you are correct, and for a more full plot anlysis of Necron I fully recommend reading this.
http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/f...sy_ix_plot.txt

[Zeromus_X]

Yes, it (or he...well,), Necron, wants to destroy everything. Like a great majority of many other FF Final Bosses. Gotta love that nihilism.

Really, it's great to make up these theories, but there just isn't a way to prove that Necron is really anything more than something to move the plot along. This is intentional. You aren't supposed to know what he is. He's just a Deus ex Machina final boss, as is prominent in several games in the series. And, well, he looks pretty neat.

[The Crystal]

Zeromus_ X said:
"Really, it's great to make up these theories, but there just isn't a way to prove that Necron is really anything more than something to move the plot along."

Dude, we are using dialogues of the game to prove it. And i will try to find a picture of the faces in Oilvert and Necron's face, to show to you guys.

Edit:
Faces in Oilvert: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...erranFaces.jpg
Necron's face: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ecronsFace.jpg