Final Fantasy VIII Mysteries

[The Last Oath]

It seems that for quite a while now the ff8 forums have been the 'same ol', the riddles, the captioning and your every now and then odd type forum, we need to start putting in some interesting forums, maybe FE? You all say that he is full of crap but at least his threads get +100 replies, at least he gets people to reply and at least his threads are interesting. There are many theories in all Final Fantasy, especially ff8, concerning the time compression is one of the hardest things we have ever come acorss to understand and you know it. There are many things that have not been explained in ff8, you read occult fan is that ever really explained? There are so many loop holes in final fantasy and we have answered them in theory but what happened now? You all got boring, WHAT HAPPENED? Maybe you can get all your knowledge together and realise that there are more things to be revealed otherwise this forum will become boring just like a lot of other ones out there.

[Viator]

Just read "Revelation of Time Compression" thread.
You will find many explanation about TC in there.

[G SpOtZ]

Occult Fan is no mystery... It's to give you hints and stuff about sidequests. You've never connected them with PuPu and Doomtrain, for example?

[Sir Bahamut]

Haven't you also considered the fact that over the course of the 7 years FF8 has been out, every single topic of discussion has been done to death, and doing any more would just be beating a dead horse? There are in reality only two things which warrant debate such as you describe.

Firstly, there's time compression, but it's pretty obvious by now that Square never made the concept to be understandable (hence why the game merely tells us that it's a "complete mystery" and has no characters really understand it), hence although we can deduce a lot of interesting properties of it, we cannot ever truly solve it, simply because Square haven't given us the necessary information.

Secondly, there's the question of Ultimecia's motives. Here however, I would say the most reasonable explanation has already been deduced; Ultimecia just happened to become a sorceress as young, and since the people of the future knew that Ultimecia was supposed to be born and wreck havoc, they persecuted her, turning her to evil, and driving her to attempt to circumvent the fate recorded in history (ie. her being killed by Squall). This is, after all, the only motive suggested by the Ultimania itself. It should of course be unnecessary to say that R=U has been done to death too, and I'd rather jam sharp needles in myself than endure another debate on that matter.

So what's left to discuss? Well, nothing really. Perhaps there's something which has been overlooked for all these 7 years, but I doubt it. The fact is that FF8 is not a game with unlimited space for discussion. It has to end some time...

EDIT: And if your idea of a good FF8 discussion is an FE thread, then why not just stick to that? He doesn't look like he's stepping down any time soon...

[Christmas]

One of these days I will reveal how PuPu is the real hero of the whole bloody game and overrule all the other theories.

[IceAngel]

I have never ever come across PuPu yet .

I am trying to think of a question that hasn't been asked before so that there is another debate going but... nothing comes to mind.

The whole '(SPOILER)why is squall's surname Leonhart instead of Loire?' is always up for discussion so I can't really ask that.

[BG-57]

IceAngel, you might want to put spoiler tags on the second surname.

The last good new idea I had was that Eden was an organic version of a garden, but that was a long time ago.

We can speculate to death on R=U and time compression, but it would be hard to reach consensus that way.

At worst, we can still help Noobs who are lost in the game someplace. I like being helpful.

[Qurange]

I don't know about the game being done to death; I like to discuss the little minor elements, like Junctioning outside Garden, and other things that basically add and extrapolate detail in the game's world. Then again, mine tend to be focused; I tend to focus more on turning the game's world into a coherent, fleshed setting than on anything else, which colors a lot of my conclusions. I write fanfic, though, too, so I have a reason for that.

[Sir Bahamut]

Well, there are obviously always going to be more obscure things like that left, but the big debates (eg. Time Compression, Ultimecia etc.) have all been done to death by now.

[IceAngel]

IceAngel, you might want to put spoiler tags on the second surname.

Oh god! Of course. Sorry if peeps already read it. I've changed it now.

I like the idea of Eden being the Garden of the Future. Which could be why it was called Eden and looks the way it does.

[BG-57]

Sure thing. I doubt anyone who's posted so far would not know that already, but we get new people joining all the time.

Garden of the Future, hmm? It has a nice ring to it.

[41-Inches-Wide]

The only mystery I could point out is how Selphie would've known Moogle Cakes (she reveals that in Balamb Harbor while taking to a fisherman/chef), when in fact there are no Moogles in FF8! Omg Mystery!!!eleven.!

Anyway.
Yeah, how did Squall become Leonhart anyway. :/

[G SpOtZ]

Perhaps he was just given (SPOILER)the last name of his mother, Raine Leonhart, instead of his father. When she died, maybe Laguna gave his son his mother's last name as a way to pay respect to her.
Or, Square just figured Leonhart was a cooler last name that would be in sync with his limit break name.
Of course... that's clearly based on speculation.

[Viator]

Firstly, there's time compression, but it's pretty obvious by now that Square never made the concept to be understandable (hence why the game merely tells us that it's a "complete mystery" and has no characters really understand it), hence although we can deduce a lot of interesting properties of it, we cannot ever truly solve it, simply because Square haven't given us the necessary information.

The explanation about TC is not really that complicated.
You cant accept any theory(about TC) presented to you because first thing in your mind about TC is Complete Mystery.That's why no matter how many explanation you read you wont accept it.

Even Gods cant tell what's going on when TC happens.
Anyway just read My thread if you want to know more about TC.

Secondly, there's the question of Ultimecia's motives. Here however, I would say the most reasonable explanation has already been deduced; Ultimecia just happened to become a sorceress as young, and since the people of the future knew that Ultimecia was supposed to be born and wreck havoc, they persecuted her, turning her to evil, and driving her to attempt to circumvent the fate recorded in history (ie. her being killed by Squall). This is, after all, the only motive suggested by the Ultimania itself. It should of course be unnecessary to say that R=U has been done to death too, and I'd rather jam sharp needles in myself than endure another debate on that matter.

I already give the explanation that people from future wont know anything about Ultimecia or TC.
What I mean is The Secret about Ultimecia will Reveal in future AFTER Ultimecia rise to power.
And again in Galbadia Garden Ultimecia said Squall was destiny to FACE Her NOT to KILL Her,that means Ultimecia doesnt really want to believe that Revelation (Death at Squall's Hand).

I ask you question now I hope you can answer it.
When Lunatic Pandora cross over Esthar I know Esthar solders trying to stop it from entering Tears Point.The question is why they dont at least destroy Tears Point to reduce Lunar Cry effect?

[Lilliputian Hitcher]

Answer to any question regarding FFVIII's plot:

Because it's contrived/poorly written

Seriously, try it.