Aeris a unsent?

[Mirage]

oh, smurf you Nojima :(. Stop ruining things.
Can't deny it, but I still think it's stupid.
I don't think it makes sense at all, how the heck would the planet change so much? It would take millions of years. So, FFX's Spirans are FF7's ancients? Wait, no. The people of spira would have had to wipe themselves nearly completely out, then the cetra later arrived and did their stuff. The people of spira must have either lived with nearly no technology for millions of years, or they nearly wiped themselves out just in time fot the Cetra to come. Yet, we see no evidence of ancient Spira technology thorough FF7.

This is just made of pure stupid. Someone fire that guy, before he smurfs up more stuff. Next we'll find out Aeris is actually Madonna, Tina's mother.

[Ryushikaze]

No. They're different planets. I said that earlier in this very thread.

And actually, we do see some Spiran tech in Gaia. The Sierra is based on ancient spiran technology that was lost somewhere in Gaia's past.

[Mirage]

I didn't read that far back.
Well, then we have two different planets that developed nearly identical life forms. they should just leave the already finished games alone. What was the point of doing it anyway. Just so they could put a reference to it in X-2, or an airship that easily could have been explained with different things.
It just doesn't make any sense at all to me.

[Zeromus_X]

Even if the two games are in the same universe, they don't follow the same rules. FFX was made well after FFVII. They haven't 'fixed up' FFVII's rules to conform to FFX's and they aren't going to. It's silly to think of it that way.

Yeah. He just said they're in the same universe. He obviously didn't plan it out very well, as they don't follow the same rules. I guess he can be credited with being creative (or something), but he isn't really the smartest chip on the block.

The airship is an airship. It's a Final Fantasy. Final Fantasies have airships. Cid made the airship. Final Fantasies have Cids. Cids usually make the airships or do something related to technology. It doesn't all go all the way back to X; VII was made before X.

[Xurts]

oh, smurf you Nojima . Stop ruining things.
Can't deny it, but I still think it's stupid.
I don't think it makes sense at all, how the heck would the planet change so much? It would take millions of years. So, FFX's Spirans are FF7's ancients? Wait, no. The people of spira would have had to wipe themselves nearly completely out, then the cetra later arrived and did their stuff. The people of spira must have either lived with nearly no technology for millions of years, or they nearly wiped themselves out just in time fot the Cetra to come. Yet, we see no evidence of ancient Spira technology thorough FF7.

This is just made of pure stupid. Someone fire that guy, before he smurfs up more stuff. Next we'll find out Aeris is actually Madonna, Tina's mother.

I agree. That was just ....bad. I can't think of any words for it. What got Square so ****ing obsessed with FF7 anyway? GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON PEOPLE. Enough already.

The thought of them being related makes me want to punch whoever thought of it in the face for thinking up something so incredibly stupid. Ugh.

[Arrianna]

But what I don't understand is that isn't everyone supposed to return/meld back into the planet no matter how hard the try. (ex. Elmyra's husband) or are Cetran race able to maintain there original form/memories within the Lifestream. Can anyone explain the reason for this?

Yes, with the exception of the Cetra. They had a special connection with the Planet. They probably have more control as to what happens to them after they die and when they are in the Lifestream. This is especially true for Aeris. She is able to actually control the Lifestream itself.

As for Zack, he is not a Cetra, so when he died he was absorbed into the Lifestream just like any other normal person. What I think is that Aeris was lonely and wanted a companion, so she went and found Zack. That's why he appears at the end of AC.

The ending of AC is real. Aeris and Zack are actually there in the physical world. You can tell because Aeris is kneeling down beside two kids before she gets up to return to the Lifestream. What I think this means is that if Aeris wanted to, she could bring herself (and possibly Zack too) back into the physcial world, but she doesn't want to. She is telling Cloud that it's okay, and that she doesn't want to be resurrected.

I seriously think that the souls (along with their memories and thoughts) of the people are supposed to remain intact and active when they return to the lifestream whether they are Ancients or not, but the physical energy created by their existence is recycled in order to form new life.

That's probably how it is. I'm sure Aeris went and found Zack's soul in the Lifestream, and helped him from there.

Whatever it was, I am sure that Zack didn't do it by himself. He had to have some help from Aeris.

Thanks.

Your forgetting that Zack was shot full of modified DNA along with Cloud. Why would he need Aeris' help?

There has also been very definate statments that they are not bringing Aeris "back". They never intended to and never intend to.

[Xurts]

But what I don't understand is that isn't everyone supposed to return/meld back into the planet no matter how hard the try. (ex. Elmyra's husband) or are Cetran race able to maintain there original form/memories within the Lifestream. Can anyone explain the reason for this?

Yes, with the exception of the Cetra. They had a special connection with the Planet. They probably have more control as to what happens to them after they die and when they are in the Lifestream. This is especially true for Aeris. She is able to actually control the Lifestream itself.

As for Zack, he is not a Cetra, so when he died he was absorbed into the Lifestream just like any other normal person. What I think is that Aeris was lonely and wanted a companion, so she went and found Zack. That's why he appears at the end of AC.

The ending of AC is real. Aeris and Zack are actually there in the physical world. You can tell because Aeris is kneeling down beside two kids before she gets up to return to the Lifestream. What I think this means is that if Aeris wanted to, she could bring herself (and possibly Zack too) back into the physcial world, but she doesn't want to. She is telling Cloud that it's okay, and that she doesn't want to be resurrected.

I seriously think that the souls (along with their memories and thoughts) of the people are supposed to remain intact and active when they return to the lifestream whether they are Ancients or not, but the physical energy created by their existence is recycled in order to form new life.

That's probably how it is. I'm sure Aeris went and found Zack's soul in the Lifestream, and helped him from there.

Whatever it was, I am sure that Zack didn't do it by himself. He had to have some help from Aeris.

Thanks.

Your forgetting that Zack was shot full of modified DNA along with Cloud. Why would he need Aeris' help?

There has also been very definate statments that they are not bringing Aeris "back". They never intended to and never intend to.

He was not a Cetra. It seems that he didn't need help though, because he was the one that found Aeris in the Lifestream.

I never said anything about Square intending to revive Aeris. Where did you get that from?

[Ryushikaze]

Well, it's not like he was totally unaided. He was kind of woken up by Aerith, though accidentally. You are correct about him finding her on his own, though.

[Arrianna]

I never said anything about Square intending to revive Aeris. Where did you get that from?

Not you, the others who keep commenting that she could come back the same way Sephiroth did.