Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 54

Thread: Aeris a unsent?

  1. #1
    Locke <3 chocobo hunter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Lost in Vector -_-
    Posts
    102

    Default Aeris a unsent?

    So I was watching Advent Children the other day, and all of a sudden I realized something. That Aeris and Zack are the Lifestream's eqivelent of the unsent. But what I don't understand is that isn't everyone supposed to return/meld back into the planet no matter how hard the try. (ex. Elmyra's husband) or are Cetran race able to maintain there original form/memories within the Lifestream. Can anyone explain the reason for this?

  2. #2
    Oh hello there! silentenigma's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Western Pennsylvania
    Posts
    668

    Default

    Things like her appearance in the game are not supposed to be analyzed. seriously.

    I'm guessing that the soul of a person doesn't get recycled after they die in the game. just the....spiritual energy?

    Also since Zack isn't a Cetra....

  3. #3
    星の声 starseeker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    In Deep Space
    Posts
    1,971

    Default

    I'm not gonna point out that you're confusing games.
    "Reality is that which,
    when you stop believing in it,
    doesn't go away".
    Philip K. Dick

  4. #4
    Rhi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    England (UK)
    Posts
    338

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by chocobo hunter
    Aeris and Zack are the Lifestream's eqivelent of the unsent.
    Chocobo hunter isn't comfusing games

  5. #5
    My hair is soft. G SpOtZ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    LAND OF LOVE <3
    Posts
    2,375

    Default

    When Aeris and Zack appeared, just think of it as... a dream. They weren't REALLY there, Cloud's memories just created them, it happens ya kno?

    Thank you Hysterian!

  6. #6
    Shadow Master Griff's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    880

    Default

    The following is a public service announcement brought to you in part by Griff, who would like to remind you that if at any point of the movie something contradicts the game that he has two words for you: Plot Hole

    Which FF Character Are You?


    (SPOILER) This Signature STILL contains spoilers

  7. #7
    Xurts's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    teh interwebs
    Posts
    1,085

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by chocobo hunter
    But what I don't understand is that isn't everyone supposed to return/meld back into the planet no matter how hard the try. (ex. Elmyra's husband) or are Cetran race able to maintain there original form/memories within the Lifestream. Can anyone explain the reason for this?
    Yes, with the exception of the Cetra. They had a special connection with the Planet. They probably have more control as to what happens to them after they die and when they are in the Lifestream. This is especially true for Aeris. She is able to actually control the Lifestream itself.

    As for Zack, he is not a Cetra, so when he died he was absorbed into the Lifestream just like any other normal person. What I think is that Aeris was lonely and wanted a companion, so she went and found Zack. That's why he appears at the end of AC.

    The ending of AC is real. Aeris and Zack are actually there in the physical world. You can tell because Aeris is kneeling down beside two kids before she gets up to return to the Lifestream. What I think this means is that if Aeris wanted to, she could bring herself (and possibly Zack too) back into the physcial world, but she doesn't want to. She is telling Cloud that it's okay, and that she doesn't want to be resurrected.

  8. #8

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Xurts
    Quote Originally Posted by chocobo hunter
    But what I don't understand is that isn't everyone supposed to return/meld back into the planet no matter how hard the try. (ex. Elmyra's husband) or are Cetran race able to maintain there original form/memories within the Lifestream. Can anyone explain the reason for this?
    Yes, with the exception of the Cetra. They had a special connection with the Planet. They probably have more control as to what happens to them after they die and when they are in the Lifestream. This is especially true for Aeris. She is able to actually control the Lifestream itself.

    As for Zack, he is not a Cetra, so when he died he was absorbed into the Lifestream just like any other normal person. What I think is that Aeris was lonely and wanted a companion, so she went and found Zack. That's why he appears at the end of AC.

    The ending of AC is real. Aeris and Zack are actually there in the physical world. You can tell because Aeris is kneeling down beside two kids before she gets up to return to the Lifestream. What I think this means is that if Aeris wanted to, she could bring herself (and possibly Zack too) back into the physcial world, but she doesn't want to. She is telling Cloud and 8.2 billion other fanboysthat it's okay, and that she doesn't want to be resurrected.

  9. #9
    Oh hello there! silentenigma's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Western Pennsylvania
    Posts
    668

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Xurts
    Quote Originally Posted by chocobo hunter
    But what I don't understand is that isn't everyone supposed to return/meld back into the planet no matter how hard the try. (ex. Elmyra's husband) or are Cetran race able to maintain there original form/memories within the Lifestream. Can anyone explain the reason for this?
    Yes, with the exception of the Cetra. They had a special connection with the Planet. They probably have more control as to what happens to them after they die and when they are in the Lifestream. This is especially true for Aeris. She is able to actually control the Lifestream itself.

    As for Zack, he is not a Cetra, so when he died he was absorbed into the Lifestream just like any other normal person. What I think is that Aeris was lonely and wanted a companion, so she went and found Zack. That's why he appears at the end of AC.

    The ending of AC is real. Aeris and Zack are actually there in the physical world. You can tell because Aeris is kneeling down beside two kids before she gets up to return to the Lifestream. What I think this means is that if Aeris wanted to, she could bring herself (and possibly Zack too) back into the physcial world, but she doesn't want to. She is telling Cloud that it's okay, and that she doesn't want to be resurrected.
    I'm liking most of this idea, EXCEPT:

    wouldn't Zack's soul and memories have been "gone forever" and recycled unto the planet a little over 2 years earlier, and so it would have been too late for Aeris to die months after him and then decide to keep his soul and memories with her?

    And what about that guy in Mideel during the game, pondering about what it would be like to drift around in a warm, gentle stream after he dies?

    I seriously think that the souls (along with their memories and thoughts) of the people are supposed to remain intact and active when they return to the lifestream whether they are Ancients or not, but the physical energy created by their existence is recycled in order to form new life.

    I do like your "self ressurection" idea, as only Aeris or other Cetra would have the power to bring themselves or others back.
    Last edited by silentenigma; 07-04-2006 at 11:12 PM.

  10. #10
    Xurts's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    teh interwebs
    Posts
    1,085

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by silentenigma
    Quote Originally Posted by Xurts
    Quote Originally Posted by chocobo hunter
    But what I don't understand is that isn't everyone supposed to return/meld back into the planet no matter how hard the try. (ex. Elmyra's husband) or are Cetran race able to maintain there original form/memories within the Lifestream. Can anyone explain the reason for this?
    Yes, with the exception of the Cetra. They had a special connection with the Planet. They probably have more control as to what happens to them after they die and when they are in the Lifestream. This is especially true for Aeris. She is able to actually control the Lifestream itself.

    As for Zack, he is not a Cetra, so when he died he was absorbed into the Lifestream just like any other normal person. What I think is that Aeris was lonely and wanted a companion, so she went and found Zack. That's why he appears at the end of AC.

    The ending of AC is real. Aeris and Zack are actually there in the physical world. You can tell because Aeris is kneeling down beside two kids before she gets up to return to the Lifestream. What I think this means is that if Aeris wanted to, she could bring herself (and possibly Zack too) back into the physcial world, but she doesn't want to. She is telling Cloud that it's okay, and that she doesn't want to be resurrected.
    I seriously think that the souls (along with their memories and thoughts) of the people are supposed to remain intact and active when they return to the lifestream whether they are Ancients or not, but the physical energy created by their existence is recycled in order to form new life.
    That's probably how it is. I'm sure Aeris went and found Zack's soul in the Lifestream, and helped him from there.

    Whatever it was, I am sure that Zack didn't do it by himself. He had to have some help from Aeris.

    Thanks.

  11. #11

    Default

    i thought the web novel The Maiden Who traveled the Planet explained what aeris did in the lifestream? here's a link btw http://www.ffcompilation.co.uk/maide...the_planet.php

  12. #12
    Xurts's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    teh interwebs
    Posts
    1,085

    Default

    That is great, atlanteay. Thanks a bunch for the link.

  13. #13

    Default

    Shinentai, no. Ghost/ Astral Projection, more likely. Simply put, given Aerith's personality, were she a Shinentai, she would have done something a lot less understated.

  14. #14
    Xurts's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    teh interwebs
    Posts
    1,085

    Default

    Wow, that is a great story. It gave alot of information. I just wish it would've covered the events in AC too. I don't suppose anyone knows of a sequel, do they?

  15. #15
    Nerfed in Continuum Shift Recognized Member Zeromus_X's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Phoenix, AZ
    Posts
    7,593
    Contributions
    • Former Cid's Knight

    Default

    Not really sequels, but even more novellas. (Translated.)

    http://www.ff7citadel.com/compilation/ac_smile.shtml

    Probably won't be exactly what you're looking for, but it does give more info into Advent Children, and Denzel.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •