The Difference between Jrock and Visual Kei

[Kuzotz]

WEll a lot of females that claim to be Jrock fans tend to make annoying lil blogs about their favorite Jrock bands. None of which are Jrock bands, but Visual Kei bands.

Visual Kei groups are basicly like backstreet boys int he states. Except they dress up like girls.

Visual Kei artist mistakened for Jrockers: Gackt, Larc engel, Diren grey, Rolly.

Now I noticed that in these blogs of fangirls that claim to love Jrock never named a Jrock band like The Predators or Art SChool or High and Might Color or The Noodles or Acidman...

Anyway fangirls tend to go for the visual kei artist. While I don't care aobut this. The only thing that bothers me is that they're calling Visual Kei Jrock, and now Jrockers all over the US that's in highschool or college. IF they say they listen to Jrock like The Pillows,PRedators,Art SChool. They'll be called gay because most Americans don't know those name and they think its visual kei yet they dont know what Visual Kei is so pretty much the fangirls can call Visual kei Jrock which kinda pisses me off because The Pillows is't visual kei.

So yeah this is a naming problem

In short...

Visual Kei isn't JROCK!!!!!

nuff said.

so what you think ?

[Kawaii Ryûkishi]

IF they say they listen to Jrock like The Pillows,PRedators,Art SChool. They'll be called gay because most Americans don't know those name and they think its visual kei

"Visual kei" and "j-rock" are not in most Americans' vocabulary. This is a non-issue, man.

[MecaKane]

Yah man, wtf.
Asian Kung Fu Generation or bust.

[Aerio]

I am no expert of Jrock. Actually, I never listen to it besides maybe one song a friend sent me a couple years ago. However, to me it sounds like Visual Kei, or whatever, is a subgroup of jrock. You know, like how rock encompasses various variations, jrock included.

Sounds like another "everyone else is posers and I'm the only real hardcore person in the world" like most of the "Goth" and "Emo" threads.

[DK]

Mad Capsule Markets > *

[Kuzotz]

I am no expert of Jrock. Actually, I never listen to it besides maybe one song a friend sent me a couple years ago. However, to me it sounds like Visual Kei, or whatever, is a subgroup of jrock. You know, like how rock encompasses various variations, jrock included.

Sounds like another "everyone else is posers and I'm the only real hardcore person in the world" like most of the "Goth" and "Emo" threads.

Nope thats not what I'm saying.

I'm talking about genre mixes

Visual kei-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu-wTTpS2k0&search=gackt

Jrock(one of the many forms)-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2KC8jALoj4

Notice the difference in sound and style

Gackt's song has more pop influences though Artschool's style has more rock influences, Indies influences, and yeah they're an alternative band.

Though I can name a lot more other bands and examples showing a clear difference between Rock and Visual Kei.

So please explain how visual kei is a subgroup of rock when it clearly shows the influences of pop music that sounds familar to groups such as backstreet boys with the gimmicks of Prince.And even so Jorck fangirls who like visual kei think that EVERY SINGLE JROCK BAND IS A VISUAL KEI BAND. seriously though we need to educate people on genre and style differences.

btw sorry for caps that was just to drive my point into the ground, and not yell at anyone.

[Sylvie]

It seems to me like you're making too much of a big deal out of this. Theres really not that much of a difference between Visual Kei and J-Rock to me.

[Shiny]

Visual Kei is the look that alot of Jrock artists go for. It's nothing more than a gimmick to me. But, some artist use it as a form of expression. Some artists in America do this as well (although some don't realize they're doing it). Jrock is a type of music genre. Visual Kei really has nothing to do with sound.

Larc engel

:O_O:

[LunaticPandora37]

WEll a lot of females that claim to be Jrock fans tend to make annoying lil blogs about their favorite Jrock bands. None of which are Jrock bands, but Visual Kei bands.

Visual Kei groups are basicly like backstreet boys int he states. Except they dress up like girls.

Visual Kei artist mistakened for Jrockers: Gackt, Larc engel, Diren grey, Rolly.

Now I noticed that in these blogs of fangirls that claim to love Jrock never named a Jrock band like The Predators or Art SChool or High and Might Color or The Noodles or Acidman...

Anyway fangirls tend to go for the visual kei artist. While I don't care aobut this. The only thing that bothers me is that they're calling Visual Kei Jrock, and now Jrockers all over the US that's in highschool or college. IF they say they listen to Jrock like The Pillows,PRedators,Art SChool. They'll be called gay because most Americans don't know those name and they think its visual kei yet they dont know what Visual Kei is so pretty much the fangirls can call Visual kei Jrock which kinda pisses me off because The Pillows is't visual kei.

So yeah this is a naming problem

In short...

Visual Kei isn't JROCK!!!!!

nuff said.

so what you think ?

OMG thank you!....I hate Dir en grey and gackt...would you consider X japan visual kei...cuz i do...

and most visual kei bands...suck....a lot of them do...

I like some of the fashion when it doesn't go overboard but other than that is really dumb...

thank you again

[Zeromus_X]

So I'm gay for liking The Pillows? I'm totally lost.

[Kuzotz]

So I'm gay for liking The Pillows? I'm totally lost.

No The Pillows isn't a Visual Kei band.

So your kewl lol.

I'm jsut saying

Visual Kei bands are mis-represented. Jrock fangirls listen to nothing but Visual Kei(if they're form the US), and these girls will call Visual Kei as pure Jrock or Goth.

"Hello this is kitty katty podcast of Jrock now a list of my favorite bands: Dir en Grey, Gackt, Larc angel, Rolly, Hido, and Cherryking."

Note: I named nothing but Visual Kei groups, and trust me google Jrock and you get most of this <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif">ty visual kei fansites thats represented as Jrock as a whole.

Theres even a video on youtube that says "Who needs hicks in Jrock vids." YEt fails to even show other bands besides those crappy Visual Kei groups.

[Zeromus_X]

Well, I'm pretty sure most people aren't really gojng to know about all of that. People can like what bands they want, I don't think everyone else is going to go crazy.

[Kuzotz]

It seems to me like you're making too much of a big deal out of this. Theres really not that much of a difference between Visual Kei and J-Rock to me.

OMFG dude theres a HUGE difference man.

Visual KEi = power pop

Jrock= rock.(in japanese)

Jrock( this is a band that does alternative rock) -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CecO...elated&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7_QPW4lV1E

Visual Kei bands-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITGRZTHtiEw&search=Rolly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp5mexkGVUI

now honestly say you odn't see a clear difference in sounds between Visual Kei and Jrock.

[Kuzotz]

Well, I'm pretty sure most people aren't really gojng to know about all of that. People can like what bands they want, I don't think everyone else is going to go crazy.

Its really not about liking but its about people thinking that rock music in Japan is jsut nothing but crappy Visual Kei bands when this is far from the truth.,

Kinda like how agressive inliners try to get recognition when more than half the world doesn't even know what Agressive inlining is.

[Tasura]

Kuzotz, its not larc angel, or larc engel its L'arc en Ciel