I restarted..

[Setzer Gabianni]

lets stop this thread if he dont wannt are help and gonna talk to us like that then we shouldnt help him

I'm a her, read my profile, and if you can't read things properly, then don't post. Also, noone helped me there exactly, just assumed I hadn't done something as simple as that. Since when you did you come and help me in this thread? You've never posted anything, not one thing, so don't include yourself in this. It's not as if I hate Jimmy, he's been very helpful, and I would GLADLY appreciate his future help.

Thanks for the help Ice

~Setzer Gabbiani

[Xurts]

I would suggest that you just mod a couple Adamantoise cards to get the Turtle Shells. It is much easier than having to wait until you get the Ragnarok to fly to the TUK to get some. You should be able to find some Adamantoise cards by playing the people in Esthar. Just make sure you spread Open first.

[Setzer Gabianni]

What do you mean sorry, by spreading? o_o

~Setzer Gabbiani

[Xurts]

What do you mean sorry, by spreading? o_o

~Setzer Gabbiani

Since Esthar does not use the Open rule, you can spread it to that region by playing a game with someone and mixing rules. Just play a game in a region that has the Open rule (like Balamb), and then play someone in Esthar. They should ask you if you want to mix rules, say yes. When you do this, you will play with all of the rules in both regions. For example, if you choose to play a game mixing FH's and Esthar's rules, all of FH's rules and Esthar's rules will be in play during that game. After you play them, you should get a message saying: "The Open rule has spread throughout this region". This means that people in Esthar will now use the Open rule in card games.

Just out of curiosity, how much do you play cards?

[Setzer Gabianni]

Quite often, I've done more playing then I ever have done, but now the rules are getting more complicated, I am trying to play near people who are near a save spot, otherwise, if I lose a card, and don't get it back, Im gonna have to restart, and go back to the said person, and fight em again.

~Setzer Gabbiani

[Iceglow]

that FAQ will tell you all the spreading and deleting rules in an area and when you can pre-empt changing the rules of an area I.E. in Gabaldia garden (disc 1) there is an exchange student near the ice rink from Trabia Garden playing them allows you to modify the rules in Trabia before disc 2 or 3 (not everyone chooses to play cards the first time through the area) thus allowing much easier eradication of that pesky random rule and not with using the more extreme modding all but player and gf cards idea.

[Xurts]

Quite often, I've done more playing then I ever have done, but now the rules are getting more complicated, I am trying to play near people who are near a save spot, otherwise, if I lose a card, and don't get it back, Im gonna have to restart, and go back to the said person, and fight em again.

~Setzer Gabbiani

Wait until you get to Lunar Station, then you are really going to love the rules.

If you don't like the rules in a certain region, you can change them. I always abolish Random in every region except for Lunar, which I will do later in the game.

The trick to changing rules is mixing rules from two different regions until a rule is either abolished or spread. If you play a game in a region you will be carrying that region's rules. So when you challenge someone to a game in a different region with different rules, he/she will ask you if you want to play a game using the rules from both regions. For someone to mix rules you have to be carrying rules that are not used in that specific region. When you mix rules, 1 of either 3 things can happen: 1) A rule in the region you are playing in is abolished. 2) A rule from the other region spreads. 3) Nothing happens. If you get an outcome that you don't want, then you have to restart and try again. Keep restarting until you get your desired outcome.

Let's say you want to abolish the Random and Elemental rules in Dollet, and you want to spread Open. First, you would play a game in Balamb so you would be carrying Balamb's rules. Next, go to Dollet and challenge someone, and say yes when they ask you if you want to mix rules. Once you're done playing, you will get 1 of the 3 possible outcomes I mentioned above. Keep restarting until Open spreads. Then play a game in a region that uses different rules than Dollet, like Galbadia or FH, and return to Dollet and mix rules again. Keep restarting until either Random or Elemental is abolished. Once one of them gets abolished, go back to that region and pick up the rules again. Play another game in Dollet and keep restarting until the last rule (either Random or Elemental) is abolished. Once you do this, Dollet will only have the Open rule, which will make card games much easier. You can use this exact same technique in any region whose rules you don't like.

[Jimmy Dark Aeons Slayer]

It might be a long processe if you keep trying to change the rules but i think that after the Lunar base part you can still have the open rule in Esthar and you can challenge the old man by the FH bridge for card games he was pretty good cards.

[Setzer Gabianni]

Wow, once I get Squall back down to planet earth, I'll note this down and have fun with the card rulesies..and other secret stuff :3

~Setzer Gabbiani

[Iceglow]

Sorry to say this one to you at this precise moment in time. Yet if you don't have the Shiva card (obtainable on the White SeeD ship) then your chance has gone also...Ellone has the Laguna card. If you haven't changed the rules in Lunar base (which affect the space station) then you'll have a hard time getting it. Personally I would re-start to the point where you can either make up for missing out at first or complete the card sub quests alongside the main story.

[Setzer Gabianni]

Wait - restart so I can get some cards? After all the hours I've put in gameplay, no way am I restarting. I'll lose passion to play. Sorry ;P

~Setzer Gabbiani

EDIT: I've got hold of the Ragnarok, and If I can, I'm going to go Tears Point, unless access is denied, because then I've missed out on Doomtrain, but I won't be too bothered. I'll go to get Bahamut, get some cards, and make sure everyone gets their Ultimate Weapons. Can someone give me a list on where to get the items?

[Qurange]

You can still get it if you complete the CC Club Card Quest, and then it's available on the Ragnarok on Disc 4, with all other rare cards you don't have.

[Setzer Gabianni]

Still get what sorry? XD

~Setzer Gabbiani

[Qurange]

Oh, the Shiva card and other rare cards.

[Xurts]

If you've beaten the CC Group they will be in the Ragnarok on Disk 4, and they will have every rare card in the game except for the ones that you get from the Queen of Cards quest.