Update - Necro and Kishi will be in Costa Mesa and will not attend the meetup. The invite from Necro's friends to you Ontario folks is open to go to Costa Mesa. Having been to both places, I can say Costa Mesa is superior, because Necro's friends have a pool. It's about 45 mins SW of Ontario. I think its 10 W -> 57 S -> 5 S -> 55 S -> 405 N or something. I will probably head to Costa Mesa for a few hours tomorrow morning/afternoon, so I can show you folks the way or talk to you on the phone about it. AIM me at masterN17 or PM me for my details. And thank me 8000 times as you do so. It inflates my ego which in turn restricts my stomach from expanding which keeps my food intake in control.