RHCP calls U2 sell-outs

[DK]

I hate people who whine about so-and-so selling out. They're in the business to make money. No one with any ambition would make music for pennies just because they love the music. If I had an opportunity to make lots of money without hurting anyone, then I'd do it. U2 isn't hurting anyone. I don't really give a hoot whether they have a special Ipod dedicated to them. It really doesn't matter to me.

Yeah, I feel the same way as well. I still think U2 sux, though.

[Doomie]

RHCP said it? It must be true.

[Rocket Edge]

I hate people who whine about so-and-so selling out. They're in the business to make money. No one with any ambition would make music for pennies just because they love the music. If I had an opportunity to make lots of money without hurting anyone, then I'd do it. U2 isn't hurting anyone. I don't really give a hoot whether they have a special Ipod dedicated to them. It really doesn't matter to me.

I totaly agree. Dislike U2 or not, there the ones making the money, and only when your in a multi-million deal can you really comment on whats being asked here. I like U2, i like there music, and i really dont agree with them being called 'sell-outs', and too the idiot who said that Bono is only using the whole 'charity' issue as a way to gain more of a celebrity status, that is bogus, and down right wrong. The guy might be one of the only people in the world who's in a position to actually make a real differance in the 3rd world countries. If you don't have any more important ideas than saving mass human life than give the guy a break.

[Fuego]

This is not the first time U2 have been called sell-outs. Sinéad O'Connor accused them of the same thing ten years ago, and apparently, many others have called them the exact same thing.

U2 is not a very popular band inside of the music industry.

I respect the hell out-a Sin'ead O'Connor ... i also like her music !
it took alot of guts to do what she did ... and it killed her career as a musician.
After Dave N~ left the band RHCP have gone back to crappy under the bridge type crap (except now its about California ... or is it Kalifornia(?)) ... one of those crappy songs plays ever 10 secs. on the radio and every time you hear it ... it swallows a peice of your soul ! there is no doubt RHCP are sell outs ... U2 sold out before the Apple thing ... and who honestly believes U2 ... or RHCP for that matter writes all 'Their' (a relative term) material.
So many ppl use ghost writers (ppl who do the work but don't receive credit for it) these days ... so they can look like its all original crap rather than someone elses crap their singin'.
And i guess i am a moron cause my group writes all original material (music and lyrics) and i have given away so many cd's cause for me and my group its all about the music !
We just want ppl to hear our music !

[Roto13]

This is not the first time U2 have been called sell-outs. Sinéad O'Connor accused them of the same thing ten years ago, and apparently, many others have called them the exact same thing.

U2 is not a very popular band inside of the music industry.

After Dave N~ left the band RHCP have gone back to crappy under the bridge type crap (excpet now its about California ... or is it Kalifornia(?)) ... it plays ever 10 secs. on the radio and every time you hear it ... it swallows a peice of your soul ! there is no doubt RHCP are sell outs ... U2 sold out before the Apple thing ... and who honestly believes U2 ... or RHCP for that matter writes all 'Their' (a relative term) material.

You have made an enemy today. >_>

[Zell's Fists of Fury]

[QUOTE=Fuego]

After Dave N~ left the band RHCP have gone back to crappy under the bridge type crap (except now its about California ... or is it Kalifornia(?)) ... one of those crappy songs plays ever 10 secs. on the radio and every time you hear it ... it swallows a peice of your soul ! there is no doubt RHCP are sell outs ... U2 sold out before the Apple thing ... and who honestly believes U2 ... or RHCP for that matter writes all 'Their' (a relative term) material.
So many ppl use ghost writers (ppl who do the work but don't receive credit for it) these days ... so they can look like its all original crap rather than someone elses crap their singin'.
And i guess i am a moron cause my group writes all original material (music and lyrics) and i have given away so many cd's cause for me and my group its all about the music !
We just want ppl to hear our music !

I garantee if somebody came up to you with a $50,000 contract, you'd sign it in a heartbeat. If you have to give your music away in order for someone to listen to it, it must not be all that great.

And ghost writers? What the hell?

[Fuego]

[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff]

After Dave N~ left the band RHCP have gone back to crappy under the bridge type crap (except now its about California ... or is it Kalifornia(?)) ... one of those crappy songs plays ever 10 secs. on the radio and every time you hear it ... it swallows a peice of your soul ! there is no doubt RHCP are sell outs ... U2 sold out before the Apple thing ... and who honestly believes U2 ... or RHCP for that matter writes all 'Their' (a relative term) material.
So many ppl use ghost writers (ppl who do the work but don't receive credit for it) these days ... so they can look like its all original crap rather than someone elses crap their singin'.
And i guess i am a moron cause my group writes all original material (music and lyrics) and i have given away so many cd's cause for me and my group its all about the music !
We just want ppl to hear our music !

I garantee if somebody came up to you with a $50,000 contract, you'd sign it in a heartbeat. If you have to give your music away in order for someone to listen to it, it must not be all that great.

And ghost writers? What the hell?

I own my own record label ... i give away music as a promo (which i have had one person in the lot say it was good just not their cup of tea, everyone else loved it) ... i wouldn't sign a contract cause i don't want to be told how to write and record ... the 'it must not be good' comment is probly just cause i said your fav band sux ... u can listen to my music on another thread on this forum and tell me how bad i suck (go ahead ... i'll be right here, trying to stop laughing so hard, so i can answer the phone). and just because you never heard of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist .... (ghost writing) ... (although i wonder why that could be ...)
Sorry Roto ... i will do my best not to loose sleep over it >.<
and thanx for the post Spaceman ... i needed a good laugh

not everyone is a Greedy SOB ...

[eestlinc]

U2 are rock legends and they can do whatever they want, including make warmed-over crap albums like their latest, put their name on an iPod, and whatever else. RHCP are if anything jealous that they haven't reached the heights U2 have.

[Roto13]

I find it pretty sad when people equate success to selling out. Wow, someone signs a recording contract, and they're sellouts. That's bull.

[Jack]

So what if they sold out? "It's all about the music" is often the thinking of those who don't wish to make a living out of their passion/People who can't make a living out of their passion because they are crap.

I can see a problem when we have "Jenny From The Block" style posturing in bands, but while we don't have that: Is it a problem? It's not like Bono is saying he's poor like Lars Ulrich. Complaining about it won't change the fact the money makes the world go around. I'd sign that recording contract in a second, and so would many of us.

I think we should just chill out and relax about this sort of thing. "Sell Outs"? My Arse.

[Zell's Fists of Fury]

I find it pretty sad when people equate success to selling out. Wow, someone signs a recording contract, and they're sellouts. That's bull.

Exactly. It can still be about the music, even if you're getting paid for it.

[Fonzie]

RHCP said it? It must be true.

[Fuego]

So what if they sold out? "It's all about the music" is often the thinking of those who don't wish to make a living out of their passion/People who can't make a living out of their passion because they are crap.

I'd sign that recording contract in a second, and so would many of us.

I guess i am different from u guys then ... cause i do wanna make music a full time thing for me ... but not at the expense of ditchin' my Morals and its not that i can't do it ... (due to lack of tallent) i just refuse to become one of those ppl . I pitty u guys who agree with Jack ... and the whole money makes the world go round mentality ... cause life is too short to be a money grubbing ass monger ... if you don't have passion about what you're doing then you've already sold out !

And CAN is the operative word Spaceman ... they CAN ... but do they <?>

[Zell's Fists of Fury]

Again, you can have passion for doing something as still make money off it. Artists in any field do it. Making money doesn't make the quality of what you're doing any less unless you personally degrade it. If, for some reason, the presence of money makes you write <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif">ty music, then by all means, don't make any. But I really see no reason why it's a bad thing to make a living out of what you are good at.

Attaching your music to products and such, THAT is selling out. But making music and getting money for it? Nah.

[Kirobaito]

So what if they sold out? "It's all about the music" is often the thinking of those who don't wish to make a living out of their passion/People who can't make a living out of their passion because they are crap.

I'd sign that recording contract in a second, and so would many of us.

I guess i am different from u guys then ... cause i do wanna make music a full time thing for me ... but not at the expense of ditchin' my Morals and its not that i can't do it ... (due to lack of tallent) i just refuse to become one of those ppl . I pitty u guys who agree with Jack ... and the whole money makes the world go round mentality ... cause life is too short to be a money grubbing ass monger ... if you don't have passion about what you're doing then you've already sold out !

And CAN is the operative word Spaceman ... they CAN ... but do they <?>

Why is signing a recording contract immoral?

Being passionate about what you do, and doing it for the sake of the music and what it means (which is what music is to me, and is precisely why I listen to the music I do) and making money are not mutually exclusive, which you seem to think they are.

I perform music, too, though I'm just a beginner at really learning how to perform, and the most important thing to me is not to make money, but to communicate with people. If I ever got a chance to sign a recording contract, I sure as hell would do it. It would give me a much larger opportunity to communicate. I honestly don't know much about U2, but from what I do know about them and based on Bono's charity work, they are pretty sincere in their efforts.