Originally Posted by Tamagon
The trouble with trying to find something you know you've seen before is that you often can't find what you're looking for when you WANT to find it, it's when you DON'T want to find something that you come across it. I can't really afford to spend a ton of time hunting down things I KNOW are out there and I can't find, like the posts I found somewhere where people said they hated Rosa because she's blonde, but here are a few things. I'll start with something familiar.
Final Fantasy worsts (Contains FF7 spoilers) - Final Fantasy Republic Forums
TheMan's posted there, here, several other places with the same spiel about how Rosa supposedly dated Kain but dumped him for Cecil because she's loose for whoever has the most power (obviously not true). I've seen people actually believe this to be true, which is why the porn portrayal concerns me. I wouldn't make a big deal out of it if not for a couple posts down where someone says they hated Rosa for the same reasons, and finding repeated unquestioningly at various places, including GaiaOnline and deviantart.
Shadow Madness Classic
If you scroll down, or use Find to look for Rosa, and read the surrounding text, you'll discover something: this is another case where they saw a post by TheMan or someone repeated his claim and, without ever questioning its veracity, takes it as truth. I use this one for two reasons. One: it shows I'm not making it up that people actually believe the lie. Two: the link he uses as a reference is a link to this very forum, to a topic that no longer exists. This points out part of why it matters to me now to defend Rosa as a character here, AND it makes the point that some things I found in the past may not be online for viewing anymore.
Final Fantasy Wikiragon's Neck Colosseum/Archive V - The Final Fantasy Wiki has more Final Fantasy information than Cid could research
I believe I've posted this one before. The negative comments toward Rosa don't seem as bad as I remember them, or maybe I'm just getting desensitized? I don't know, but I mention this one particularly because someone says her DS outfit makes her "look like a super slut." This is a comment I've seen getting more of a voice as the DS version gets more recognition. It bothers me because it adds to the above issues (portrayal in porn and the lie spread about her) AND because given that I usually see Rosa put down in combination with Rydia being put up on a pedestal, I notice that even though Rydia shows much more skin, she's considered "sexy" instead of "slutty." Some people have explained this as because Rosa's clothes have a flesh tone while Rydia's are green and gold, but that shouldn't be all it takes. They're dressed about the same, Rydia with less cover. And if it isn't clear enough with the DS remake... Rydia's The After outfit has MUCH less cover compared to Rosa and THAT one is ALSO considered "sexy" instead of "slutty" by most people.
How Things Should Be - FF4 by ~rydiahighwind on deviantART
This one feels petty even to me, but I felt I had to show it to make it obvious there ARE people out there who despise this character with an unbridled passion, to the point where it's very certain they'd never be willing to see a speck of good in her, and would probably believe any number of bad things about her.
Here's some more from a least favorite character thread at CavesofNarshe:
Caves of Narshe Forums -> Least fav Character
Caves of Narshe Forums -> Least fav Character
Caves of Narshe Forums -> Least fav Character
And more evidence of hatred of the character:
the Seikens Board / Final Fantasy IV DS English Trailer
Of course, another "worst character of all time" thread from your very own board:
http://forums.eyesonff.com/general-f...ml#post1210959
And this:
Women of Final Fantasy
You know this is everywhere, I only gave one link for it. THIS bothers me because it points out something I've been fighting the current and losing on for a while: "Rosa is the FF epitome of damsel-in-distress." Which, like the claim of Rosa being a whore that slept with Kain and dumped him for Cecil over desire for power, is not true. She had the misfortune of being the first female lead of her type, and so when this game was created, they had to focus on the traits that were THEN not as thoroughly grafted into the minds of gamers. What I've been TRYING to get is people to see the OTHER traits she has that are more subtle and subdued, that you don't get as much exposition on because it's thought by the developers that you'll grasp her personality well enough through things like consoling Rydia or following Cecil to Kaipo that the now more memorable scenes needed to take more precedence. As FF4DS was being developed, I actually hoped they'd add a ton more scenes for Rosa because she's been thoroughly unjustly maligned for the crime of being the first of her type.
If I took more time, I know I could uncover plenty of other things I've found in the past that back each aspect of my concerns, but I don't have the time. I only gave a couple glimpses into eyesonff because I assume you've seen or can find the worse posts I've seen here that put her down (the worst character poll from eyesonff that I linked to is actually the least of them).
