And I noticed many don't seem to use Deim, the other defender from Kilika. Her AT and PA are great! I use her and Kulukan with Nap Tackle 3/Nap Pass 3 and the whole other team is asleep!
And I noticed many don't seem to use Deim, the other defender from Kilika. Her AT and PA are great! I use her and Kulukan with Nap Tackle 3/Nap Pass 3 and the whole other team is asleep!
Aurora, exhale bloody air! Dark Holy!
im gonna name my favourite team. not the best. but fav.
Tidus
Argai Ronso
Letty
Zalitz
Ropp
Zamzi Ronso
Subs
Nedus/Larbeight/Datto
Vuroja
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Her AT is 46, which is the 25th highest out of 60 players. Not too impressive. Her 89 PA isn't too bad, but there are 5 players with more PA and a higher AT than her.Originally Posted by Dark Messenger
Also, that Nap technique is bit wasteful since as soon as you score a goal they'll all wake up again. Go with Wither techs and give your forwards Nap Shot 3
I use the orginal Aurochs.
GOALIE
Nimrook is a pain to get since the Psyches rarely release him. By the time you do get him, you've probably leveled up enough to notice that Nimrook doesn't quite cut it in high levels.
Keepa stays above average after about level 10-12 and later on, he goes on to become one of the best.
I actually forget who the best goalie at max level is supposed to be but that doesn't really matter as the game gets very boring long before you hit that level. But at Level 1, Durren is your goalie. He's in the Calm Lands Gorge and he owns up until Level 20.
That's just a little tidbit for your benefit. Personally, I used Miyu right through until I reset the stats (at about the late-mid levels stage). She's above average throughout. Although she starts becoming a little plain towards the end, by then the opponent won't be able to get anywhere near your goal. You find her on the Moonflow, Guadosalam side.
FORWARDS
Tidus. Speaks for itself.
Datto. His SH was pretty tame compared to Tidus' until I started tanking up his levels. He's a fast swimmer and he's an all-rounder in all other aspects. He's really cheap too. I realise that it's no problem getting money in FFX but because I like to think like a manager and Datto was very cost-efficient, I decided to keep him on.
MIDFIELD
I always used to start Blitzing as soon as I left Luca. I don't do what some people do and wait until I get the airship so that I'd have all the best players to scout. I just picked up my crew as I went along, replacing the original Aurochs with whoever I bumped into that was worth using.
For this reason, Brother didn't play in my midfield. I used Linna from Macalania Temple. I was like "WHOA NAP SHOT 3". And scouted her straight up. A bit on the pricey side but the availability of Nap Shot 3 was worth it. (That is until I found out that I'd need to level her up a few times before she even had the HP to make the shot). Great in passing and blocking. A bit slow for an Al Bhed but still above 60. She was the perfect offensive Midfielder. She was particularly helpful in the early stages of my Blitzing when I came up against the Psyches and Nimrook. Datto wasn't yet fast enough to do to the swim-in-and-lure-away trick to get a close shot for Tidus. And Tidus couldn't penetrate Nimrook from the edges of the pool, even with Sphere Shot. Linna, however, would just Nap Shot 3 him. If it went in, super. If it didn't, Nimrook would be sleeping with the fishes. xD
DEFENSE
Kyou. Easy to get a hold of. He's walking around on the end of the Djose Highroad, near the temple. Almost on par with Miyu at goalkeeping but he excels in defense. I don't remember him starting with any great skills but his stats were uber.
Ropp. My weakest link. Found on the Mi'ihen Highroad. He was a bit of a filler until I got my REAL defender in Naida (who comes much later in the Calm Lands). I'd only sometimes bother to get him because he really isn't that much better than Botta or Jassu.
Naida. Pretty weak in stats to begin with but she does have the speed. It doesn't take her long to develop some pretty good stats. And she starts with Venom Tackle 2 (I think, it's one of the '2' tackles) which boosts her initial weakness.
your report, although long and detailed is very flawed.
Nimrook is the best goalkeeper throughout
Datto also becomes average. all of those characters mentioned excepting linna and Ropp are not along the best. Tidus perhaps but not stastically.
Keepa is always useless, his "improvement" is only sporadic and still terribly behind other GKs
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Post breakdown!
Nimrook is, without a shadow of a doubt, the best goalkeeper from Lv1 to Lv99. His Lv99 CA is 67, which is 5 above Wedge and 7 above Nizarut.
Keepa is never above average and is 10th out of 11 at Lv99.
Nimrook, as stated above.
At Lv1 Nimrook is your goalie, and he owns up until Lv99.
Her SP is 59 at all levels.
Agreed.
Excels in defence? His AT increases by 7 points in the first 50 levels. Compare that with Ropp, for example. His AT increases by 20 in the first 50 levels. Kyou's BL is simply awful. It starts at 6 and increases to 15 by Lv40. Other defenders have 25-31 BL at the same level.
He begins with Wither Pass, Venom Tackle, Venom Tackle 2, Nap Tackle, Nap Tackle 3, Wither Tackle, Drain Tackle, Elite Defence, of which Nap Tackle 3 and Elite Defence are noteworthy. The only things 'uber' about his stats are his EN and SP. Everything else is decidedly disappointing.
The consensus is that Ropp is the best defender in the game, only having a slight lapse between Lv30 and 50. At these levels he's beaten by Naida.
Her AT is rather low until about Lv10, then she's considered to be one of the best until the 60's. The tech you're thinking of is Wither Tackle 3.
As blue phoenix said, nice report but full of glaring faults.
Last edited by TheSpoonyBard; 08-09-2006 at 01:01 AM.
Endless knows his blitzball. That's for sure.
I actually "Loled" at that.
Endless, what's your opinon on lakkam? the blonde al bhed midfielder.
Pretty good, but outdone by her teammate, Judda. She's got high PA and AT at the lower levels, but her BL doesn't really develop 'til the 70s. She turns from good to average at the higher levels, but is still worth using. Decent EN for a defender give her the option of being a defensive MF. However, as with all the Psyches, she's hindered by a small selection of techs.
She's also pretty ugly, but that's neither here nor there.
To dispell your claims that she has 'the largest pass in the world', here are some general level comparisons.
Lv1: Fifth highest (3 points behind 1st place).
Lv10: First by one point.
Lv40: Second by one point.
Lv70: 13th highest (10 points behind 1st place).
Lv99: 22nd highest (33 points behind 1st place).
Last edited by TheSpoonyBard; 08-09-2006 at 01:46 AM.
I must be at like lvl 20-30 ATM with my game. Cause she currently has the best past. But your facts seem reliable.
What about Wedge? Who I beleive is the best player.
(and yes she is ugly)
Wedge is a tricky one since his role changes depending on his level. Before Lv20/30 he's a decent forward, but then his SH stops increasing and his AT and BL continue. It is at this point you move him into defence. He's great in this role as far as his EN, AT and BL go, but his PA is very low (still only 17 at Lv60). Once he gets to Lv85 or so you can move him into goal. He'll have 42 CA by Lv80, 52 by Lv90 and 62 by Lv99. Goaltending is about the only thing he can do well at high levels.
My current team is
LF: Tidus
RF: Wakka
MF: Brother
RD:Nadia
LD: Jassu
GK: Keppa
Please note that I don't have the airship yet though I want my team be
LF: Tidus
RF: Wakka or Nedus (He has to be a high level though)
MF: Vuroja (he can learn invisible shot)
RD: Kulukan (ecelent passing) or deim (good attack)
LD: Ropp (good attack) or Irga Ronso (ecelent passing)
GK: Nimrook (good at the begining and till the end)
Wakka: 60 SP, 78 EN, 80 SH
Nedus: 99 SP, 71 EN, 74 SH
Nedus is faster and has more AT, but has slightly lower EN and SH. I'd go with Nedus, but Wakka's nice for the nostalgia.
Deim: 89 PA, 46 AT, 89 BL
Kulukan: 96 PA, 64 AT, 64 BL
Stick with Kulukan.
Ropp: 60 SP, 96 PA, 73 AT, 53 BL
Irga: 42 SP, 85 PA, 67 AT, 55 BL
Go with Ropp, even if Irga does have double his EN.
Endless knows a lot about blitzball it looks like.
Only played a few games.. played right after a little leveling on the Mihen(sp?) road... havent really played since.
Won Wakka's Attack reels with:
Tidus
Wedge
Letty at midfield
Zalitz
Jassu
Jumal at goalie
Started at level 2-3 and now most are level 6-9
Currently just got a certain mode of transportation after a long long long FMV
(SPOILER)I just got the airship and searching for Yuna at the moment
Think Tavrobel(probably mispelling his name) mentioned to pick up Brother at this point, so I did for 20 games or so.. but havent been able to try him out yet.... think I dropped Botta.
Any other suggestions or keep going with the main story?
(first time through FFX)
Nedus's speed looks nice.. any others who get that insanely high speed? Most that i've looked at so far are 60-65(those guados are fast)
Tournament wasnt really a problem except for the final game.. almost impossible to score on the Al Bhed goalie.... Jecht Shot finally went through in overtime or close to the end.. can't remember.
Kilika was easy, Ronso was easier.
If you'd picked up Zev Ronso in Luca and walked to the Mi'ihen Travel Agency to find Ropp, that'd be the best team available right after Luca. As it is it's still pretty good.
Brother is severely overpowered at the lower levels. He'll have no problem catching up and overtaking the rest of your team in terms of levels if he's your MF. Don't expect to be losing a match any time soon.
I'd suggest continuing with the main story for a while, until you get to (SPOILER)Zanarkand and have full control of the Airship, since you've got Attack Reels and that's all you really need.
Then I recommend dropping Wedge and hire Vilucha (Besaid) or Shaami (Luca) as his replacement, drop Zalitz and hire Naida (Calm Lands Travel Agency). You can drop Jumal if Nimrook becomes available.
Nedus and Brother have 99 SP. Datto has 90 SP at Lv99, but hits 92 SP and comes down again. Nav. G has 84 SP. Naida, Zazi G. and Giera G. have 77 SP. Then there are fifteen players with a SP between 61 and 72.
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