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    Aeris canīt even safe her self

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    She at least tried and she didn't give up. I think she can save herself. I think that she is one of the bravest Final Fantasy characters. BTW, thanks ~Reno~. Thanks for standing up for me.
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    One of the bravest...or one of the stupidest?

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    She's not a useless character at all. Her attacks may not be strong but she's the best with magic and materia. You don't have to like Aeris, but please respect her. No one would want people laughing at them because they died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pure Aerisbeauty7
    She's not a useless character at all. Her attacks may not be strong but she's the best with magic and materia. You don't have to like Aeris, but please respect her. No one would want people laughing at them because they died.
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    Thanks, Reno!

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    any time

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    Let's see, the only particularly useful early magics are Big Guard and White Wind, both of which are equally useful no matter who applies them. Other magic quickly loses its usefulness for a good period once you step outside Midgard. Especially since it has roughly equivalent damage with just plain attacking, but also costs MP.

    And Cloud is actually the best mage, once equipment is included in the consideration.
    Though speaking of mages, Cait is the second best natural mage. Does anyone ever replace Aerith with him for mage purposes?

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    Cloud or Cait Sith?

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    erm excuse me your actully wrong with the Big Guard + White Wind beig the only useful magic in the early stages: I can get Beta as soon as I leave Midagar and besides Matra Magic does in the region of 225 to 250 damage, when you consider the weapon Cloud has when he leaves Midagar (the one you can steal from those soldiers in the Shin Ra building) he does roughly 90 damage with a standered hit, then you take into consideration that Matra Magic hit all oponents without haveing to use an All Materia you will see that it is very useful in the early stages of the game.

    also haveing just loaded up my copy again iv taken a look at the stats of Cloud and Aerith here are the results as follows

    Cloud level 26

    STR 56
    DEX 26
    VIT 42
    MAG 52
    SPR 41
    LCK 22

    ATT 92
    ATT% 100
    DEF 69
    DEF% 9
    M ATK 52
    M DEF 41
    M DEF% 0

    Aerith level 21

    STR 25
    DEX 21
    VIT 31
    MAG 53
    LCK 20

    ATT 53
    ATT% 100
    DEF 65
    DEF% 9
    M ATK 53
    M DEF 38
    M DEF% 0

    so you will see by compairing a level 21 Aerith and a level 26 Cloud that you are wrong. Thankyou very much have a nice day.
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    I said quickly. not immediately. Straight up damage isn't the only consideration, it's cost effectiveness. Matra starts good, but very turns redundant quickly, especially in boss battles.

    Beta is powerful, yes. But early on, the MP used in the casting of that spell is much better employed in casting White Wind- which cures all status effects and heals the entire party, and Big guard, which is Barrier and Mbarrier in one. Besides, I'd rather be able to have it on all of my E. Skills later in the game, when it can be cost effective.

    And while Cloud with the hardege does around 90-150 damage immediately after Midgard, his physical damage curve increases much more quickly magic damage curve does.

    Addendum: Aerith is the best natural mage. Cloud is the best overall mage once equipment is brought in.

    PAB- Cait.

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    It would become irrelevant anyway because with the progress of the game other characters grow much more powerfull than Aeris and all their limit breaks are superior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryushikaze
    I said quickly. not immediately. Straight up damage isn't the only consideration, it's cost effectiveness. Matra starts good, but very turns redundant quickly, especially in boss battles.
    Matra is very good for getting your limit breaks up (if thats what you choose to do) so yes, I find it to be highly useful and considering you spouting cost effectiveness at 8mp per Matra it is very cost effective.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryushikaze
    Beta is powerful, yes. But early on, the MP used in the casting of that spell is much better employed in casting White Wind- which cures all status effects and heals the entire party, and Big guard, which is Barrier and Mbarrier in one. Besides, I'd rather be able to have it on all of my E. Skills later in the game, when it can be cost effective.
    I do say it is effective against bosses: you said that the only useful ES in early game time is WW and BG and I said you was wrong. which you have admited.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryushikaze
    And while Cloud with the hardege does around 90-150 damage immediately after Midgard, his physical damage curve increases much more quickly magic damage curve does.
    90-150? no that is so wrong: haveing conduted a series of tests my Cloud who is level 26 with the Force Stealer weapon (ya know the one you get from Heidigger after the parade aka a better sword then the hard edge) does about 225 damage and considering im highly overeleveled (Barret Cloud and Aerith all have there level 3-2 limits) and iv only just left the golden saucer I said 90 as a generous amount.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryushikaze
    Addendum: Aerith is the best natural mage. Cloud is the best overall mage once equipment is brought in.
    Addendum? im sorry I do not know this word. You say that cloud is the best mage once equipment is brought into play? what equipment? if your going to say stuff like this back it up with evidence like I have done, its all well and good saying that Cloud is better once he get better equipment but without evidence I find it impossible to believe. But thinking about it there is only one thing that Cloud can equip that Aerith cant: Swords and also considering that there isnt a sword that enhanses his magic, what you are saying is a complete load of rubbish.

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    PAB- Cait.
    Huh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Dark Aeons Slayer
    It would become irrelevant anyway because with the progress of the game other characters grow much more powerfull than Aeris and all their limit breaks are superior.
    how on earth can you say the others limit breaks are better? do you even know what Great Gospel does, no? Well here is a quote for you:

    Quote Originally Posted by Eyesonff.com
    This limit break simply rules. Not only does it completely restore all negative status effects, HP, and MP, but it makes the whole party temporarily invincible as well! In FF8 that is the equivalent of a Magalixir and a Holy War, and anyone who knows FF8 will know that is darn good! Too bad you won't have it for too long....
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    Aeris is the best spell-casting Mage. Cloud can't cast any magic unless he is equipped with Materia. Just because Aeris' magic deals with healing and protecting, doesn't mean she is the weakest mage.

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    Aeris's limit healing wind is probably the most helpful move on the first disc so don't diss!!!

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