What's up with Ultima?

[Zeromus_X]

So...what does it count as? A white magic? I've heard it counts as it's own type of magic too. So what is it? Should it go to my person with higher Mg. Power or Soul?

[DJZen]

Don't bother with it. It's a lame spell.

[DarkLadyNyara]

It should go to whoever has the most spells . Ultima, in DoS at least, is based on your weapon and spell levels. Spirit, intelligence and magic have no effect. If one person has sixteen spells at decent levels, Ultima becomes fairly powerful. That said, you can easily beat the game without it.

[Paul]

i had heard it was white magic?

[Crossblades]

So...what does it count as? A white magic? I've heard it counts as it's own type of magic too. So what is it? Should it go to my person with higher Mg. Power or Soul?

It is considered White Magic according to the DoS Strategy Guide. Yeah, give it to the person with the highest Soul and constantly abuse it to make it stronger. When I played the game, I gave it to Firion since I made him a Paladin type character

[Zeromus_X]

Well, I'm playing the NES rom (having played every other version of the game released in the U.S.), and I just wanted to make sure.

Wait a minute....*clicks*

[DarkLadyNyara]

It is considered White Magic according to the DoS Strategy Guide. Yeah, give it to the person with the highest Soul and constantly abuse it to make it stronger. When I played the game, I gave it to Firion since I made him a Paladin type character

Spirit has no effect on Ultima. At least in DoS it doesn't. It will raise spirit, but that's about it.

[Crossblades]

It is considered White Magic according to the DoS Strategy Guide. Yeah, give it to the person with the highest Soul and constantly abuse it to make it stronger. When I played the game, I gave it to Firion since I made him a Paladin type character

Spirit has no effect on Ultima. At least in DoS it doesn't. It will raise spirit, but that's about it.

It had effect when I played it

[rubah]

I think part of the problem is you can only use ultima with one person, so it's hard to compare between the characters' stats.

[DJZen]

I've done this in the NES version. Here, observe.



I should note that DkKnights have no elemental resistances or weaknesses, and Frioniel's stats were all maxed (weapon skills and magic skills included). I even tried decreasing various stats and it had no effect. Ultima's damage is just plain screwey if you ask me.

[Sephex]

I thought I was the only person who noticed that Ultima is screwy in this game.

[rubah]

did you do it with all four characters? It'd be sorta neat and weird and sucky if each character had a bit that was turned off and leonheart had that bit turned on and when he used ultima it did like 300000awregl;ksadg;lsad dmg ;o

[Sefie1999AD]

DJZen: Wow, the damage done by Ultima is really low there. So all this fuss about unsealing Ultima and (SPOILER)Minh sacrificing himself for a nearly useless spell? In my game of FFII DoS, Holy and Flare both did a lot more damage than Ultima even when they were on lower levels.

[DJZen]

Well they've dug up more info on the DoS version, and they've figured out that in that version Ultima is dependant on all of your stats and magic skill levels. Frankly I think that's a stupid way to do it. It makes you do too much training.

Sorry, in the FC version Ultima is just pathetic. In DoS it starts out doing a very good amount of damage, but as you level it up it doesn't do much better, while Flare and Holy become MUCH better.

[Peter_20]

i had heard it was white magic?

What the hell is that sad smiley doing there?

Yes, it counts as white magic in this game.
At least I tend to raise my Spirit from using it.

EDIT:
Why does everybody think Ultima sucks?
ULTM 1 does deal 2000% more damage than FIRE 1, after all.