Question of the day

[Kirobaito]

.33333... = 1/3

.33333... X 3 = .999999... = 3/3 = 1

(1/3)(3) = 3/3 does not equal .9999 because it is a whole. .9999 is a .000001 away from being a whole. 1 is a whole number. .9999 is a decimal. Yes it can be rounded. But it's like when people say there's a 99% chance of a medicine not working, people believe it as fool proof, when one person comes in and the medicine does not work, that is the reason of it not being 100% and or in this case, 1 or a full whole number.

But what number separates .99999~ and 1? The answer is 0.000000~, or 0. Therefore, they are the same number.

If you add the infinity nothing does, but if there is no infinity and the number spiraled throughout forever, an infinate .00000 with a 1 at the end would as well. .9999999999999999999~ then .00000000000000000>1~. 0 does not = 1.

There's no such thing as an infinite .0000 with a 1 at the end. If something is infinite then it never ends. If there was a 1 at the end then it wouldn't be infinite.

Then how do we not know there's not something at the end of all the 9's. What if there is a 1 or a 3 or a 4 we can't see due to the fact we think that it's just constant 9's. 1.1 isn't even one. It is 1 and 1/10.
So if we don't count as 1.1 as 1. (1 1/10)
Why would we count .9999~

There ISN'T something at the end of all the 9's because there IS no end to all the 9's. .99999~ is an INFINITE amount of decimal places, meaning that the 9s go on forever and ever and ever and ever. 1.1 isn't 1 because 1.1 - 1 = 0.1. 1 - .999999~ = .00000~, which can be written as 0, therefore they are the same number.

I didn't think you could subtract infinities, yes, it would equal zero with the infinity's but the fact I can't get my head around, is if the 9's stopped for what ever reason, because non-infinitive, 1 - .9999999999999999999999999 would = .0000000000000000000000001
I just don't see 1 as being an infinite. That's like saying 2.99999999999999~ is 3. and 3.99999999999~ is 4 and so on.

But the 9s don't stop for whatever reason. You don't NEED to get your mind around it because in the number .99999~, the 9s never stop. They're infinite.You're right, 1- .9999999999 = .00000000001. But .9999999999 =/= .9999999999~.

[Avarice-ness]

*takes the quotes off*
Okay but since you can -normally- put things into analogys.

If I had a pie and .9999999~ was gone, which would prolly be microscopic and never noticable, the pie would still not be whole.

[Kirobaito]

*takes the quotes off*
Okay but since you can -normally- put things into analogys.

If I had a pie and .9999999~ was gone, which would prolly be microscopic and never noticable, the pie would still not be whole.

OK. Show me the number which represents how much is supposedly left.

[Aradae]

*takes the quotes off*
Okay but since you can -normally- put things into analogys.

If I had a pie and .9999999~ was gone, which would prolly be microscopic and never noticable, the pie would still not be whole.

OK. Show me the number which represents how much is supposedly left.

.00000...

[Kirobaito]

*takes the quotes off*
Okay but since you can -normally- put things into analogys.

If I had a pie and .9999999~ was gone, which would prolly be microscopic and never noticable, the pie would still not be whole.

OK. Show me the number which represents how much is supposedly left.

.00000...

Precisely. There is no pie left.

[Avarice-ness]

*takes the quotes off*
Okay but since you can -normally- put things into analogys.

If I had a pie and .9999999~ was gone, which would prolly be microscopic and never noticable, the pie would still not be whole.

OK. Show me the number which represents how much is supposedly left.

Like you said, just becuase you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there. In this case the missing peice is not there, it may be insignifigant but maths about facts and pure truths. That one missing peice makes the idea faulty and not a pure number as 1.

[Kirobaito]

*takes the quotes off*
Okay but since you can -normally- put things into analogys.

If I had a pie and .9999999~ was gone, which would prolly be microscopic and never noticable, the pie would still not be whole.

OK. Show me the number which represents how much is supposedly left.

Like you said, just becuase you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there. In this case the missing peice is not there, it may be insignifigant but maths about facts and pure truths. That one missing peice makes the idea faulty and not a pure number as 1.

Math is about facts and pure truth, and if you can't show me the number which represents the portion of the pie that is left besides .00000~ (which is the correct answer), then there is no pie left, because .0000~ is a never ending line of 0s.

EDIT: I shouldn't say that math is about facts and pure truth because a lot of math is abstract, but you get my point. I hope.

[Aradae]

three people who saw this thread died due to their head exploding

[Avarice-ness]

three people who saw this thread died due to their head exploding

Yeah. I totally got distracted. There has to be a loophole, there's a loophole to everything. I'll find it. >=D

[bipper]

Mathmatics is just falable. Don't loose any sleep over that F in algebra kids! The new math will be much more ruthless.

[eemica]

if you round it..yes.

[Xaven]

if you round it..yes.

We dun need to round it. :D

There is NO number between 0.999~ and 1. Nothing. No little microscobic bit. In the wonderful decimal system, 0.999~ = 1. :D

[Bart's Friend Milhouse]

Does .999999...~ = 1 ?

What does the ~ mean?

[Xaven]

Does .999999...~ = 1 ?

What does the ~ mean?

Right now, they're using "~" as a sign for "continued". Like, 0.999~ is 0.99999999999999999999999999-- and so on. It never ever stops.

...Isn't it supposed to be a "!", though? "!"s do something like that.

[Psydekick]

God. I hated the last thread about this.

Same ere and i hate this one