PC Games V.S. Console Games

[drunkymonkey]

You wanna know why? Because 90% of PC games suck! I mean c'mon, what good game do they have?

Off the top of my head: Every good RTS (Age of Empires series, Warcraft series, Starcraft series), good FPS's (Call of Duty series, Half-Life series, Battlefield series), excellent games like Worms Armeggedon, the Thief series, the Civilization series... do you want me to continue?

PC's and consoles both have their share of games that, depending on your tastes, you may like or dislike. But to pretend that 90% of PC games (or console games, for that matter) flat-out suck is simply ridiculous. Even if you don't like something, you should still be able to admit that it is good, if in fact it is. I personally don't like Street Fighter because I just don't find it fun, but I can see and admit it's a good game, just not one for me.

Ok and I agree. I exaggerated with the 90%. What I really meant was that the AMOUNT of GREAT games consoles have overwhelm the amount of great PC games, that's just the reality. Oh and let's not speak 'bout VARIETY.

Ford Racing didn't come out on the PC.
You are exaggerating and talking about a subject you know very little about. I used to be an avid console player, until I got a PC and started playing games on it, which were excellent.
It is telling that the console market is now buying out PC franchises, like Call of Duty, The Sims (Microsoft even tried to get WoW), FEAR, Half Life, Broken Sword, Battle for Middle Earth, Total War, Battlefield... the list goes on.
Let's not talk about variety? Why, exactly? Is it because consoles have very little of it? They don't have Spore, they don't have Black and White, they don't have Darwinia, they don't have all these new experiences. They're either sequels, movie tie-ins, or crap ideas. Yes, there's some good ones that come out (God of War and Shadow of the Collossus being the best recent examples), but really, having a look at the Xbox360 games, you can't see a genuine next-gen title at all. The Wii might change this, but it's probably going to be more of a novelty than anything else.
The good games to bad games ratio is a matter of opinion, and really pointless to argue about, because it's such a big argument, that we could go on about it for ages. Personally, I'd rather boot up my copy of Dawn of War, kill a few orcs, move onto R:TW, conquer the lands of [insert country here], and then do a few quests in Azeroth.

Zelda/Metal Gear Solid/God Of War/Super Smash Bros./Mario/Street Fighter/Gran Turismo/Final Fanatasy

Baldur's Gate/Thief/Max Payne 2/Rag Doll Kung Fu/Prince of Persia/GT Legends/Diablo 2.
Oh, by the way, what can compete with: Rome Total War/Dawn of War/World of Warcraft/Half Life 2 Episode 1/ Counter Strike Source/Civilization 4/ Battlefield 2/ Rise of Nations/Monkey Island/Warcraft 3/Planetside/Planescape, and all those other games worthy of note?

[JKTrix]

90% crappy games for PC isn't entirely inaccurate. There are tons and tons of games that you never hear about.

Consoles will never compare to PCs in terms of variety, simply because PCs have the potential for infinite expansion and modification. People can sit in their bedrooms and make games. The 'great games' for PCs outnumber the 'Great Games' for consoles, simply because there are much more of them (in terms of history).
You hear a lot more about the passable console games because consoles are more mainstream than PC gaming is. You see the ads on TV because the people who will buy them will play them on a TV. I don't see a lot of PC games advertised on TV, because the people are not watching TV to play it. It's about the target audience.

If this poll were to suggest that you were someone with an endless supply of money, then PC would win--no contest. But for the more realistic "lowest common denominator" population, a console would serve them better.

Consoles will have Spore, btw (even the DS)

[drunkymonkey]

90% crappy games for PC isn't entirely inaccurate. There are tons and tons of games that you never hear about.

Consoles will never compare to PCs in terms of variety, simply because PCs have the potential for infinite expansion and modification. People can sit in their bedrooms and make games. The 'great games' for PCs outnumber the 'Great Games' for consoles, simply because there are much more of them (in terms of history).
You hear a lot more about the passable console games because consoles are more mainstream than PC gaming is. You see the ads on TV because the people who will buy them will play them on a TV. I don't see a lot of PC games advertised on TV, because the people are not watching TV to play it. It's about the target audience.

If this poll were to suggest that you were someone with an endless supply of money, then PC would win--no contest. But for the more realistic "lowest common denominator" population, a console would serve them better.

Consoles will have Spore, btw (even the DS)

Link, possibly?

Even if it is true, I really can't see myself using a PS3 controller to mould a creature together, and it is likely you will be required to have an Internet connection to play.

[DeathKnight]

You wanna know why? Because 90% of PC games suck! I mean c'mon, what good game do they have?

Off the top of my head: Every good RTS (Age of Empires series, Warcraft series, Starcraft series), good FPS's (Call of Duty series, Half-Life series, Battlefield series), excellent games like Worms Armeggedon, the Thief series, the Civilization series... do you want me to continue?

PC's and consoles both have their share of games that, depending on your tastes, you may like or dislike. But to pretend that 90% of PC games (or console games, for that matter) flat-out suck is simply ridiculous. Even if you don't like something, you should still be able to admit that it is good, if in fact it is. I personally don't like Street Fighter because I just don't find it fun, but I can see and admit it's a good game, just not one for me.

Ok and I agree. I exaggerated with the 90%. What I really meant was that the AMOUNT of GREAT games consoles have overwhelm the amount of great PC games, that's just the reality. Oh and let's not speak 'bout VARIETY.

Ford Racing didn't come out on the PC.
You are exaggerating and talking about a subject you know very little about. I used to be an avid console player, until I got a PC and started playing games on it, which were excellent.
It is telling that the console market is now buying out PC franchises, like Call of Duty, The Sims (Microsoft even tried to get WoW), FEAR, Half Life, Broken Sword, Battle for Middle Earth, Total War, Battlefield... the list goes on.
Let's not talk about variety? Why, exactly? Is it because consoles have very little of it? They don't have Spore, they don't have Black and White, they don't have Darwinia, they don't have all these new experiences. They're either sequels, movie tie-ins, or crap ideas. Yes, there's some good ones that come out (God of War and Shadow of the Collossus being the best recent examples), but really, having a look at the Xbox360 games, you can't see a genuine next-gen title at all. The Wii might change this, but it's probably going to be more of a novelty than anything else.
The good games to bad games ratio is a matter of opinion, and really pointless to argue about, because it's such a big argument, that we could go on about it for ages. Personally, I'd rather boot up my copy of Dawn of War, kill a few orcs, move onto R:TW, conquer the lands of [insert country here], and then do a few quests in Azeroth.

Zelda/Metal Gear Solid/God Of War/Super Smash Bros./Mario/Street Fighter/Gran Turismo/Final Fanatasy

Baldur's Gate/Thief/Max Payne 2/Rag Doll Kung Fu/Prince of Persia/GT Legends/Diablo 2.
Oh, by the way, what can compete with: Rome Total War/Dawn of War/World of Warcraft/Half Life 2 Episode 1/ Counter Strike Source/Civilization 4/ Battlefield 2/ Rise of Nations/Monkey Island/Warcraft 3/Planetside/Planescape, and all those other games worthy of note?

Man! what the heck are you talking 'bout???? PC games OVERALL are not better than console games pure and simple.

All you pointed out did not tell mehow PC games can be better than console games.

[I Took the Red Pill]

This is becoming an argument of what you two like better, so there really isn't going to be a winner in this argument. Both platforms have their fair share of gold and their fair share of crap, there's no way of getting around it.

[Ashley Schovitz]

PC is too complicated so I go with Console and they charge you for online games which is a crime.

[Tavrobel]

Deathknight fails.



I usually play more multiplayer games online (WCIII for instance with Samuraid). Just having someone else playing, even if not physically is always more fun in my opinion. More customizing, more options, and games are often better, not that games on the PC are made quite as often. Even with MMORPGs, RTSes, there's always room for both the hardcore players (in D2, there's a game mode CALLEd hardcore), and the casual players who just do some random 5 man instance with a few friends, just to get away from life. Many PC games also have greater longevity, despite the sizable fee for both the game, and internet time. (Starcraft, anyone? I still play it frequently, despite it being AT LEAST 10 years since the beta version; you don't get that with consoles, unless they are meant to be multiplayer, like Mario Kart 64, or Goldeneye64, although MMOs could be said to be almost completely hardcore by sane people's standards)

While you have the option of PC, there's console games. The great thing about consoles is that you can play on this hugeass screen TV, and you don't have quite as many problems as the PC with crashing and viruses (although the PC will automatically win because of porn). Games are especially tailored on the consoles, both in regards to audience, and gameplay availability (which is both a drawback and an immensely good thing), while the PC games have to cater to the fact that there are going to be problems, even if it's not a fault of the programmers themselves. Plus, with PC games, you often have to deal with patches (dial-up-kill-ftw) more often than consoles. And lag. Lag. Lag. For the most part, if you get a nice TV screen, it'll be the ONLY reason why you play anything at all.

All in all, I prefer PC games, because there's not just one thing to do on a computer. Sure the screen will be a bitch, but once you know where everything is (which is easier on a PC anyways), the factor of being utterly confused shouldn't be a problem. Although sometimes, a game's plot will suffer on a PC game for some odd unknown reason that I have yet to understand exactly why.

[drunkymonkey]

You wanna know why? Because 90% of PC games suck! I mean c'mon, what good game do they have?

Off the top of my head: Every good RTS (Age of Empires series, Warcraft series, Starcraft series), good FPS's (Call of Duty series, Half-Life series, Battlefield series), excellent games like Worms Armeggedon, the Thief series, the Civilization series... do you want me to continue?

PC's and consoles both have their share of games that, depending on your tastes, you may like or dislike. But to pretend that 90% of PC games (or console games, for that matter) flat-out suck is simply ridiculous. Even if you don't like something, you should still be able to admit that it is good, if in fact it is. I personally don't like Street Fighter because I just don't find it fun, but I can see and admit it's a good game, just not one for me.

Ok and I agree. I exaggerated with the 90%. What I really meant was that the AMOUNT of GREAT games consoles have overwhelm the amount of great PC games, that's just the reality. Oh and let's not speak 'bout VARIETY.

Ford Racing didn't come out on the PC.
You are exaggerating and talking about a subject you know very little about. I used to be an avid console player, until I got a PC and started playing games on it, which were excellent.
It is telling that the console market is now buying out PC franchises, like Call of Duty, The Sims (Microsoft even tried to get WoW), FEAR, Half Life, Broken Sword, Battle for Middle Earth, Total War, Battlefield... the list goes on.
Let's not talk about variety? Why, exactly? Is it because consoles have very little of it? They don't have Spore, they don't have Black and White, they don't have Darwinia, they don't have all these new experiences. They're either sequels, movie tie-ins, or crap ideas. Yes, there's some good ones that come out (God of War and Shadow of the Collossus being the best recent examples), but really, having a look at the Xbox360 games, you can't see a genuine next-gen title at all. The Wii might change this, but it's probably going to be more of a novelty than anything else.
The good games to bad games ratio is a matter of opinion, and really pointless to argue about, because it's such a big argument, that we could go on about it for ages. Personally, I'd rather boot up my copy of Dawn of War, kill a few orcs, move onto R:TW, conquer the lands of [insert country here], and then do a few quests in Azeroth.

Zelda/Metal Gear Solid/God Of War/Super Smash Bros./Mario/Street Fighter/Gran Turismo/Final Fanatasy

Baldur's Gate/Thief/Max Payne 2/Rag Doll Kung Fu/Prince of Persia/GT Legends/Diablo 2.
Oh, by the way, what can compete with: Rome Total War/Dawn of War/World of Warcraft/Half Life 2 Episode 1/ Counter Strike Source/Civilization 4/ Battlefield 2/ Rise of Nations/Monkey Island/Warcraft 3/Planetside/Planescape, and all those other games worthy of note?

Man! what the heck are you talking 'bout???? PC games OVERALL are not better than console games pure and simple.

All you pointed out did not tell mehow PC games can be better than console games.

It's quite easy to comprehend what I am talking about. You state your opinion like a fact. 'Plain and simple.' Ha. Don't make me puke my guts out.
You gave me a list of good console games. I give a list of their PC counterparts, all of which (with the exception of Metal Gear and Final Fantasy) were better than the console ones.

[DeathKnight]

You wanna know why? Because 90% of PC games suck! I mean c'mon, what good game do they have?

Off the top of my head: Every good RTS (Age of Empires series, Warcraft series, Starcraft series), good FPS's (Call of Duty series, Half-Life series, Battlefield series), excellent games like Worms Armeggedon, the Thief series, the Civilization series... do you want me to continue?

PC's and consoles both have their share of games that, depending on your tastes, you may like or dislike. But to pretend that 90% of PC games (or console games, for that matter) flat-out suck is simply ridiculous. Even if you don't like something, you should still be able to admit that it is good, if in fact it is. I personally don't like Street Fighter because I just don't find it fun, but I can see and admit it's a good game, just not one for me.

Ok and I agree. I exaggerated with the 90%. What I really meant was that the AMOUNT of GREAT games consoles have overwhelm the amount of great PC games, that's just the reality. Oh and let's not speak 'bout VARIETY.

Ford Racing didn't come out on the PC.
You are exaggerating and talking about a subject you know very little about. I used to be an avid console player, until I got a PC and started playing games on it, which were excellent.
It is telling that the console market is now buying out PC franchises, like Call of Duty, The Sims (Microsoft even tried to get WoW), FEAR, Half Life, Broken Sword, Battle for Middle Earth, Total War, Battlefield... the list goes on.
Let's not talk about variety? Why, exactly? Is it because consoles have very little of it? They don't have Spore, they don't have Black and White, they don't have Darwinia, they don't have all these new experiences. They're either sequels, movie tie-ins, or crap ideas. Yes, there's some good ones that come out (God of War and Shadow of the Collossus being the best recent examples), but really, having a look at the Xbox360 games, you can't see a genuine next-gen title at all. The Wii might change this, but it's probably going to be more of a novelty than anything else.
The good games to bad games ratio is a matter of opinion, and really pointless to argue about, because it's such a big argument, that we could go on about it for ages. Personally, I'd rather boot up my copy of Dawn of War, kill a few orcs, move onto R:TW, conquer the lands of [insert country here], and then do a few quests in Azeroth.

Zelda/Metal Gear Solid/God Of War/Super Smash Bros./Mario/Street Fighter/Gran Turismo/Final Fanatasy

Baldur's Gate/Thief/Max Payne 2/Rag Doll Kung Fu/Prince of Persia/GT Legends/Diablo 2.
Oh, by the way, what can compete with: Rome Total War/Dawn of War/World of Warcraft/Half Life 2 Episode 1/ Counter Strike Source/Civilization 4/ Battlefield 2/ Rise of Nations/Monkey Island/Warcraft 3/Planetside/Planescape, and all those other games worthy of note?

Man! what the heck are you talking 'bout???? PC games OVERALL are not better than console games pure and simple.

All you pointed out did not tell mehow PC games can be better than console games.

It's quite easy to comprehend what I am talking about. You state your opinion like a fact. 'Plain and simple.' Ha. Don't make me puke my guts out.
You gave me a list of good console games. I give a list of their PC counterparts, all of which (with the exception of Metal Gear and Final Fantasy) were better than the console ones.

BETTER??????????????????????

You've GOTTA be kidding me :laugh: man oh man.

Anyway, to Trabovel:

What can be more fun than Super Smash Bros. Brawl online????? NOTHING that's what.

Believe me, consoles are gonna step all over PCs all over again in this next generation(not graphically, but stratigically and qualitically hehe =D ).

[JKTrix]

http://uk.pc.gamespy.com/pc/spore/707976p1.html

GameSpy: Still PC only?

[Will Wright]: Well, actually we are going to go on all platforms, but we will come out on PC first. We will even come out on cell phones and stuff.

That was just FYI, not exactly part of the debate.

The fact is, PC games have a larger number of high quality games that consoles do. They've been around longer, so they have the history going for them. Games designed for PCs are generally much better on PCs. Games designed for consoles are generally much better on consoles (Halo PC kinda sucks).

--Edit

Guys, you're quoting huge loads of text over and over. My scroll wheel is dying!

A lot of the games that drunkymonkey mentioned are also on consoles, but I figured I wouldn't comment on that as it doesn't really move this debate forward. Let's try not to be hysterical about this debate.
No normal person has played Smash Bros Brawl (remember, Miyamoto is a God), so you really can't form an opinion on it. It's easy to imagine what it would be like if it's online, but you can't say it will be like that since it hasn't been experienced yet.
Despite the idea that "consoles stomped all over PCs", the PCs are still here. They go through their ups and downs, but they won't be 'stomped out' completely. There are things you can do on the PC that just don't work right on a console, like RTSes. It only seems like things might have 'died' for PC gaming because console gaming is so much more 'mainstream' and public. You hear "OMGWTF AERIS DIES" on forums a lot more than "Wow, anti-aliasing does wonders to Half-Life."

Deathknight, we understand your preference. But if you had access to a capable PC and were able to play the awesome games you'd be singing a different tune. I happen to come from both sides and have expressed my preference on this particular poll (consoles) based on generality (or communist, depending how you look at it :P).

[drunkymonkey]

BETTER??????????????????????

You've GOTTA be kidding me :laugh: man oh man.

Anyway, to Trabovel:

What can be more fun than Super Smash Bros. Brawl online????? NOTHING that's what.
Believe me, consoles are gonna step all over PCs all over again in this next generation(not graphically, but stratigically and qualitically hehe =D ).

What an excellent comeback argument! I liked the way you used lots of unnecessary question marks, and then answered my post by avoiding the whole issue I presented you with! Top marks, a glorious career as a politician presents itself to you with open arms.

What can be more fun than Smash Bros Online? Lesse. Taking part in a forty man raid in WoW you kill a massive angry dragon, fighting against 20 bots with 4 people in Counter Strike: Source, naming yourselves famous political figures and fighting the good fight in Titan Quest at a LAN centre, and sending an orc army to crush the Imperial Guard in Dawn of War. Trust me, I've played these experiences, and they're golden, simply golden.
Also, do you have any actual proof that consoles are going to step all over Personal Computers? I remember people saying that about... 5 years ago. Can't quite remember why though.... oh yes... The PS2.

http://uk.pc.gamespy.com/pc/spore/707976p1.html

GameSpy: Still PC only?

[Will Wright]: Well, actually we are going to go on all platforms, but we will come out on PC first. We will even come out on cell phones and stuff.

That was just FYI, not exactly part of the debate.

The fact is, PC games have a larger number of high quality games that consoles do. They've been around longer, so they have the history going for them. Games designed for PCs are generally much better on PCs. Games designed for consoles are generally much better on consoles (Halo PC kinda sucks).

I remember seeing that written about the Movies. But I suppose it's probably true, considering it's EA.

[DeathKnight]

BETTER??????????????????????

You've GOTTA be kidding me :laugh: man oh man.

Anyway, to Trabovel:

What can be more fun than Super Smash Bros. Brawl online????? NOTHING that's what.
Believe me, consoles are gonna step all over PCs all over again in this next generation(not graphically, but stratigically and qualitically hehe =D ).

What an excellent comeback argument! I liked the way you used lots of unnecessary question marks, and then answered my post by avoiding the whole issue I presented you with! Top marks, a glorious career as a politician presents itself to you with open arms.

What can be more fun than Smash Bros Online? Lesse. Taking part in a forty man raid in WoW you kill a massive angry dragon, fighting against 20 bots with 4 people in Counter Strike: Source, naming yourselves famous political figures and fighting the good fight in Titan Quest at a LAN centre, and sending an orc army to crush the Imperial Guard in Dawn of War. Trust me, I've played these experiences, and they're golden, simply golden.
Also, do you have any actual proof that consoles are going to step all over Personal Computers? I remember people saying that about... 5 years ago. Can't quite remember why though.... oh yes... The PS2.

http://uk.pc.gamespy.com/pc/spore/707976p1.html

GameSpy: Still PC only?

[Will Wright]: Well, actually we are going to go on all platforms, but we will come out on PC first. We will even come out on cell phones and stuff.

That was just FYI, not exactly part of the debate.

The fact is, PC games have a larger number of high quality games that consoles do. They've been around longer, so they have the history going for them. Games designed for PCs are generally much better on PCs. Games designed for consoles are generally much better on consoles (Halo PC kinda sucks).

I remember seeing that written about the Movies. But I suppose it's probably true, considering it's EA.

PC may have variety but I don't see it in your post?........all the games you mention are war-related games which really get boring after a while(personally).

I'd still love to play Street Fighter online (with a GOOD controller) than any war/strategy game

[drunkymonkey]

BETTER??????????????????????

You've GOTTA be kidding me :laugh: man oh man.

Anyway, to Trabovel:

What can be more fun than Super Smash Bros. Brawl online????? NOTHING that's what.
Believe me, consoles are gonna step all over PCs all over again in this next generation(not graphically, but stratigically and qualitically hehe =D ).

What an excellent comeback argument! I liked the way you used lots of unnecessary question marks, and then answered my post by avoiding the whole issue I presented you with! Top marks, a glorious career as a politician presents itself to you with open arms.

What can be more fun than Smash Bros Online? Lesse. Taking part in a forty man raid in WoW you kill a massive angry dragon, fighting against 20 bots with 4 people in Counter Strike: Source, naming yourselves famous political figures and fighting the good fight in Titan Quest at a LAN centre, and sending an orc army to crush the Imperial Guard in Dawn of War. Trust me, I've played these experiences, and they're golden, simply golden.
Also, do you have any actual proof that consoles are going to step all over Personal Computers? I remember people saying that about... 5 years ago. Can't quite remember why though.... oh yes... The PS2.

http://uk.pc.gamespy.com/pc/spore/707976p1.html

GameSpy: Still PC only?

[Will Wright]: Well, actually we are going to go on all platforms, but we will come out on PC first. We will even come out on cell phones and stuff.

That was just FYI, not exactly part of the debate.

The fact is, PC games have a larger number of high quality games that consoles do. They've been around longer, so they have the history going for them. Games designed for PCs are generally much better on PCs. Games designed for consoles are generally much better on consoles (Halo PC kinda sucks).

I remember seeing that written about the Movies. But I suppose it's probably true, considering it's EA.

PC may have variety but I don't see it in your post?........all the games you mention are war-related games which really get boring after a while(personally).

I'd still love to play Street Fighter online (with a GOOD controller) than any war/strategy game

Baldur's Gate/Thief/Max Payne 2/Rag Doll Kung Fu/Prince of Persia/GT Legends/Diablo 2. Those games were the ones I mentioned. None of them are war-related games.

Baldur's Gate: RPG, much like FF.
Thief: A game about being a Medieval Thief.
Max Payne 2: A game about shooting robbers and murderers.
Rag Doll Kung Fu: A game about ragdolls beating the crap out of each other.
Prince of Persia: a platform game.
GT Legends: A racing game.
Diablo 2: Another RPG.

Also: I congratulate you on loving Street Fighter Online, but I fail to see how that makes the entirety of consoles better. It's personal preference about one game.

[DeathKnight]

BETTER??????????????????????

You've GOTTA be kidding me :laugh: man oh man.

Anyway, to Trabovel:

What can be more fun than Super Smash Bros. Brawl online????? NOTHING that's what.
Believe me, consoles are gonna step all over PCs all over again in this next generation(not graphically, but stratigically and qualitically hehe =D ).

What an excellent comeback argument! I liked the way you used lots of unnecessary question marks, and then answered my post by avoiding the whole issue I presented you with! Top marks, a glorious career as a politician presents itself to you with open arms.

What can be more fun than Smash Bros Online? Lesse. Taking part in a forty man raid in WoW you kill a massive angry dragon, fighting against 20 bots with 4 people in Counter Strike: Source, naming yourselves famous political figures and fighting the good fight in Titan Quest at a LAN centre, and sending an orc army to crush the Imperial Guard in Dawn of War. Trust me, I've played these experiences, and they're golden, simply golden.
Also, do you have any actual proof that consoles are going to step all over Personal Computers? I remember people saying that about... 5 years ago. Can't quite remember why though.... oh yes... The PS2.

http://uk.pc.gamespy.com/pc/spore/707976p1.html

GameSpy: Still PC only?

[Will Wright]: Well, actually we are going to go on all platforms, but we will come out on PC first. We will even come out on cell phones and stuff.

That was just FYI, not exactly part of the debate.

The fact is, PC games have a larger number of high quality games that consoles do. They've been around longer, so they have the history going for them. Games designed for PCs are generally much better on PCs. Games designed for consoles are generally much better on consoles (Halo PC kinda sucks).

I remember seeing that written about the Movies. But I suppose it's probably true, considering it's EA.

PC may have variety but I don't see it in your post?........all the games you mention are war-related games which really get boring after a while(personally).

I'd still love to play Street Fighter online (with a GOOD controller) than any war/strategy game

Baldur's Gate/Thief/Max Payne 2/Rag Doll Kung Fu/Prince of Persia/GT Legends/Diablo 2. Those games were the ones I mentioned. None of them are war-related games.

Baldur's Gate: RPG, much like FF.
Thief: A game about being a Medieval Thief.
Max Payne 2: A game about shooting robbers and murderers.
Rag Doll Kung Fu: A game about ragdolls beating the crap out of each other.
Prince of Persia: a platform game.
GT Legends: A racing game.
Diablo 2: Another RPG.

Also: I congratulate you on loving Street Fighter Online, but I fail to see how that makes the entirety of consoles better. It's personal preference about one game.

is there a game like Mario Party there?

Is there a game like Super Smash Bros. or Street fighter?

Is THERE a game like Zelda?

A game like Final Fight?

PC fails man. It doesn't make people happy.

Just those people who like graphics and playing war-related games online

[drunkymonkey]

BETTER??????????????????????

You've GOTTA be kidding me :laugh: man oh man.

Anyway, to Trabovel:

What can be more fun than Super Smash Bros. Brawl online????? NOTHING that's what.
Believe me, consoles are gonna step all over PCs all over again in this next generation(not graphically, but stratigically and qualitically hehe =D ).

What an excellent comeback argument! I liked the way you used lots of unnecessary question marks, and then answered my post by avoiding the whole issue I presented you with! Top marks, a glorious career as a politician presents itself to you with open arms.

What can be more fun than Smash Bros Online? Lesse. Taking part in a forty man raid in WoW you kill a massive angry dragon, fighting against 20 bots with 4 people in Counter Strike: Source, naming yourselves famous political figures and fighting the good fight in Titan Quest at a LAN centre, and sending an orc army to crush the Imperial Guard in Dawn of War. Trust me, I've played these experiences, and they're golden, simply golden.
Also, do you have any actual proof that consoles are going to step all over Personal Computers? I remember people saying that about... 5 years ago. Can't quite remember why though.... oh yes... The PS2.

http://uk.pc.gamespy.com/pc/spore/707976p1.html

GameSpy: Still PC only?

[Will Wright]: Well, actually we are going to go on all platforms, but we will come out on PC first. We will even come out on cell phones and stuff.

That was just FYI, not exactly part of the debate.

The fact is, PC games have a larger number of high quality games that consoles do. They've been around longer, so they have the history going for them. Games designed for PCs are generally much better on PCs. Games designed for consoles are generally much better on consoles (Halo PC kinda sucks).

I remember seeing that written about the Movies. But I suppose it's probably true, considering it's EA.

PC may have variety but I don't see it in your post?........all the games you mention are war-related games which really get boring after a while(personally).

I'd still love to play Street Fighter online (with a GOOD controller) than any war/strategy game

Baldur's Gate/Thief/Max Payne 2/Rag Doll Kung Fu/Prince of Persia/GT Legends/Diablo 2. Those games were the ones I mentioned. None of them are war-related games.

Baldur's Gate: RPG, much like FF.
Thief: A game about being a Medieval Thief.
Max Payne 2: A game about shooting robbers and murderers.
Rag Doll Kung Fu: A game about ragdolls beating the crap out of each other.
Prince of Persia: a platform game.
GT Legends: A racing game.
Diablo 2: Another RPG.

Also: I congratulate you on loving Street Fighter Online, but I fail to see how that makes the entirety of consoles better. It's personal preference about one game.

is there a game like Mario Party there?

Is there a game like Super Smash Bros. or Street fighter?

Is THERE a game like Zelda?

A game like Final Fight?

PC fails man. It doesn't make people happy.

Just those people who like graphics and playing war-related games online

You ask me if there are beat 'em ups for the PC like you expect there to be. There isn't because PC games are normally played with the keyboard and mouse, the games are shaped around this fact.

But there are games like Zelda. Baldur's Gate 2 (the real one, not the crap console versions) is critically acclaimed by almost everybody but ignorant PC hateboys. And that, some people claim, surpasses Zelda, thanks to its variety, open endedness, and story.

It appears, by your list, that consoles are only for people that like playing beat 'em up.s I'm not a great fan. I quite like Tekken, but that's basically it as far as it goes. But I can see why people like them. They're good games, just I wouldn't buy them.

If PCs didn't make people happy, then the PC wouldn't have such a big market. It wouldn't have the biggest online gamers population. It wouldn't have one of the best selling games ever (Sims 2) in its ranks. It wouldn't constantly be stolen from by console developers (hello Doom 3, hello Half Life 2, hello Baldur's Gate, hello Everquest, hello Call of Duty, hello Spore, hello Max Payne, hello Far Cry, hello Battlefield, hello Battle for Middle Earth, hello The Sims, hello FEAR, etc etc....)

Your ignorant view points are hilarious. You say the PC is for those who only likes war games and graphics, even when I have already given you a complete list of games that have nothing at all to do with war.