PC Games V.S. Console Games

[JKTrix]

First, PLEASE stop quoting the entire chain of posts. It gets annoying having to scroll through the thing 50 times.

Deathknight, what you don't seem to understand is that PC games are moddable. That means you can change them. You can have an Unreal Tournament game on a PC and a PS2 console, but on a PC you can modify it so that all the characters are Dragon Ball Z people.

So, you can have the same game on a PC that's on a console that does the same stuff... and *more*. That's what everyone is getting at.

[DeathKnight]

First, PLEASE stop quoting the entire chain of posts. It gets annoying having to scroll through the thing 50 times.

Deathknight, what you don't seem to understand is that PC games are moddable. That means you can change them. You can have an Unreal Tournament game on a PC and a PS2 console, but on a PC you can modify it so that all the characters are Dragon Ball Z people.

So, you can have the same game on a PC that's on a console that does the same stuff... and *more*. That's what everyone is getting at.

wow:rolleyes2

*hugs poll and Metal Gear and God Of War and Devil May Cry and Final Fight and Mario Party and Gran Turismo and Final Fantasy and Metroid and Mario and Luigi and Tetris*

Yay:bigbiggri

[JKTrix]

Good god. It was an example.

All of the games you're 'hugging', save God of War, have versions playable on the PC. Hug that.
I'm trying to help you understand the PC side, despite the fact that I'm taking the console side in this poll.

[Duncan]

First, PLEASE stop quoting the entire chain of posts. It gets annoying having to scroll through the thing 50 times.

Deathknight, what you don't seem to understand is that PC games are moddable. That means you can change them. You can have an Unreal Tournament game on a PC and a PS2 console, but on a PC you can modify it so that all the characters are Dragon Ball Z people.

So, you can have the same game on a PC that's on a console that does the same stuff... and *more*. That's what everyone is getting at.

And more than that, are all the user create maps. Or the TC's or total conversions for games. One of the most famous TC's for a game is Counterstrike. That mod for Half-Life because so popular that Valve snapped up the rights to it.

There are tons of interface mods for games like WOW, that make the game much more user friendly, and therefore more fun to play. Basically, the difference is that with many PC games when you are playing a game and you think, 'man I really wish I could have a button that does...' chances are someone has thought of that as well, and there is a mod that will do it.

Also one thing that hasn't been touched on is the source code releases. Doom, Duke Nukem, Quake, Quake II, and many other games have had their original source code released and allows for users to revamp the engines to give a new life to old games. I can play the original Doom now on my widescreen with the correct aspect ratio, and hardware acceleration and all sorts of nice lighting effects.

[DeathKnight]

First, PLEASE stop quoting the entire chain of posts. It gets annoying having to scroll through the thing 50 times.

Deathknight, what you don't seem to understand is that PC games are moddable. That means you can change them. You can have an Unreal Tournament game on a PC and a PS2 console, but on a PC you can modify it so that all the characters are Dragon Ball Z people.

So, you can have the same game on a PC that's on a console that does the same stuff... and *more*. That's what everyone is getting at.

And more than that, are all the user create maps. Or the TC's or total conversions for games. One of the most famous TC's for a game is Counterstrike. That mod for Half-Life because so popular that Valve snapped up the rights to it.

There are tons of interface mods for games like WOW, that make the game much more user friendly, and therefore more fun to play. Basically, the difference is that with many PC games when you are playing a game and you think, 'man I really wish I could have a button that does...' chances are someone has thought of that as well, and there is a mod that will do it.

Also one thing that hasn't been touched on is the source code releases. Doom, Duke Nukem, Quake, Quake II, and many other games have had their original source code released and allows for users to revamp the engines to give a new life to old games. I can play the original Doom now on my widescreen with the correct aspect ratio, and hardware acceleration and all sorts of nice lighting effects.

PCs are boring, that's why consoles beat them EVERY generation. Now don't tell me that PC games sell more then console games or I'll close this thread myself

[KentaRawr!]

Whether or not PC games are boring is entirely a matter of opinion. >_>

[JKTrix]

Again, you provide no proof.

What's the player population in World of Warcraft? (Really, I wanna know.) Whatever it is, I know it is huge. That's how many people have purchased that ONE game. It's unlikely that any other games on any other system that was released around the same time as WoW (Nov. 2004) has sold as many games, not even Halo 2 (which was released a week or two beforehand).

PCs are not boring. WoW is the most played game in the WORLD. It's just your opinion, please stop acting like it's the law.

[DeathKnight]

Again, you provide no proof.

What's the player population in World of Warcraft? (Really, I wanna know.) Whatever it is, I know it is huge. That's how many people have purchased that ONE game. It's unlikely that any other games on any other system that was released around the same time as WoW (Nov. 2004) has sold as many games, not even Halo 2 (which was released a week or two beforehand).

PCs are not boring. WoW is the most played game in the WORLD. It's just your opinion, please stop acting like it's the law.

One game? give me a break. I want MANY games to play, not some retarted war game:rolleyes2

combined, PS2 games outsell PC games starting from 2001

[bipper]

World of Warcraft is not a sterotypical war game. YOU TAKE TAHT BACK

IT really does say a lot, when that many people can play this game that much.

Bipper

[JKTrix]

Again, you provide no proof. I highly doubt that the PS2 has sold more games than the PC 'since 2001', since a lot of the PS2's heavy hitters are also available on the PC (Madden, GTA to be precise)

World of Warcraft is the most consistently played game in the world. That's an indisputable fact that even you in your bubble should be able to grasp. We are not trying to convince you to play PC games, we're trying to get you to understand that the world is bigger than Final Fantasy. Which is also on the PC.

I'll restate my point: I vote for consoles because they are standardized and everyone can play the same games with generally the same presentation. Hardware upgrades are not required to enjoy the game at the same level as other people can.
On the other hand, PCs require infrequent hardware upgrades to keep your games looking good, lest you play in a sub-standard mode.

My argument is not about the games or the variety itself.

[Rase]

One game? give me a break. I want MANY games to play, not some retarted war game:rolleyes2

World of Warcraft is as much a "war game" as Final Fantasy XI. It's an MMORPG.

combined, PS2 games outsell PC games starting from 2001

Proof would be a lot more believable than the word of someone who's shown he's biased. So, do you have any to back that up?

[Shoeberto]

Who wants modability?:rolleyes2

http://www.moddb.com

Also, DeathKnight, calm down. It's an opinion thread.

[The Fat Bioware Nerd]

In my opinion console games are better than pc games because it's much more comfortable to sit on your couch or lie down on your bed playing a console game...Than it is to sit at desk hunched over playing a pc game. Also pc games have a tendency to crash MORE than console games do. By the way the part about pc games crashing isn't coming from my personal opinion it's coming from first hand experience. I just bought Neverwinter Nights a few months ago and the damn thing crashed on me about eight times already!!!

[Shoeberto]

Consoles aren't succeptibly to bloat and malware that likes to crash games, either... but bloat and malware is the fault of the end-user, however, and the developers can't really be blamed if a person can't maintain their PC :P

[Tidus Andronicus]

I liked the days when Console games where a place to get better control and higher graphics than u could get on PC.... but these days thats far from true.

They both have equal standing in my mind.