Without Shay Given, Newcastle would be down and out in the championship. With the excuse of a def they got, putting Stevey H in goal would be suicide, except kamikaze style, taking the rest of the team with him. I'd say he's as big a heroic legend of St James's Park as Alan Shearer was. Given's got the rest of his career to give to Newcastle and Ireland. If only those guys could get a strikeforce as good as England then we'd have some more Irish trouble... There's gonna be much better goal keepers in the future, Van Der Sar and even good ol' Lehmann will be outshadowed eventually. Is it even possible to outshadow Robinson further? I mean, he's losing his grip. You forgot Liverpool have got a titan of a goalkeeper themselves. The reason Shay's good is because he's been used to working so hard with a poor defence. Add in a decent defence for Newcastle and just maybes they could go for a top 4 spot. Titus Bramble can make any Newcastle fan have a heart attack, he can do some good when he gets off his fat lazy arse and does something. It's gotta be so humiliating to a team's pride to concede a goal from Titus Bramble. Anyone want him? I'll seriously respect anyone's gambling skills if they put Bramble in their lineup. Anyone gonna do it? Anyone daring enough to do it?