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    I found Zelda 1 and Zelda two to be really bad, but that's just personal opinion. Although, I had a blast playing Wind Waker. Essentially, both games haven't changed much over the years. However, I think people prefer Zelda because their success ratio has so far been 100%, where as Final Fantasy's past 2 games have been flops. You'll never see a Zelda ONLINE either.

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    I forgot about 4 swords but I left off the CD-I games on purpose

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    Yes, the cd-i ones are the ones people like to sweep under the rug and forget. The Four Swords games are great with 2-4 players, and Four Swords Adventures is also pretty good with one player. You can't play the other Four Swords game alone.

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    this is how you enter bottom of well ,in Ocarina of time, early

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H-PB...f%20the%20well

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    Quote Originally Posted by ff_sweden
    this is how you enter bottom of well ,in Ocarina of time, early

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H-PB...f%20the%20well
    Cool. Can I do that with an all White Mage group?

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    The Legend of Zelda is to Role Playing Games as Final Fantasy is to Menu-based Fantasy Games. Saying that a game where you control a character other than yourself is not an RPG is just nonsense. They are both RPGs with different game basics and mechanics.

    And they both rock so I'm not choosing. :rolleyes2

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    Quote Originally Posted by oddler
    The Legend of Zelda is to Role Playing Games as Final Fantasy is to Menu-based Fantasy Games. Saying that a game where you control a character other than yourself is not an RPG is just nonsense. They are both RPGs with different game basics and mechanics.

    And they both rock so I'm not choosing. :rolleyes2
    NBA 2K5 is a role playing game by that logic. I don't play myself but I do play the role of 5 players on the court. It isn't a sports game...it is a roleplaying.

    Your logic sucks and is retarded.

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    Zelda isn't an RPG, it's an adventure game. In lot's of games, you control a character other than yourself. Perfect Dark certainly isn't an RPG, but you play the role of Joanna Dark.

    The Zelda as an RPG thinking just goes back to when people thought that any game with a 3/4 overhead view was an RPG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edczxcvbnm
    NBA 2K5 is a role playing game by that logic. I don't play myself but I do play the role of 5 players on the court. It isn't a sports game...it is a roleplaying.
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    Your logic sucks and is retarded.
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    You just explained my point perfectly. The game itself is a sports game but you control the people playing the sport. By doing so, the game is also a role-playing game. Most games are role-playing games, including first person shooters, fighters, whatever. The term RPG has little meaning as a precursor to the purpose or mechanics of a game and should be destroyed in my humble opinion.

    By the way and to stay on topic, Final Fantasy = The Legend of Zelda. Go ahead and ridicule me.

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    RPG is not a literal term though. That is why you are wrong on so many levels. Saying something is cool doesn't mean that the thing/person/place is at relativily cold temerature. Same thing applies to the term RPG.

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    there have been many arguments about whether Zelda is an RPG or not, and the fact is it isn't. RPG's aren't to be taken literally, otherwise every game is an RPG.

    But that's not the point of this thread so can we please stay on topic. Zelda is more popular for many reasons, one of the many, is that it's easy to pick up and play. Hell, my mom loves Zelda, she played the original FF back in the day, but now they're too complicated for people. More people enjoy Zelda because it has an easier learning curve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ljkkjlcm9
    there have been many arguments about whether Zelda is an RPG or not, and the fact is it isn't. RPG's aren't to be taken literally, otherwise every game is an RPG.

    But that's not the point of this thread so can we please stay on topic. Zelda is more popular for many reasons, one of the many, is that it's easy to pick up and play. Hell, my mom loves Zelda, she played the original FF back in the day, but now they're too complicated for people. More people enjoy Zelda because it has an easier learning curve.

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    You act like FF is even remotely complicated. Kill creatures, get gold, buy new equipement, beat boss, move to the next area and repeat. You don't even have to do any real eye hand coordiation when it comes to static menu based battles. I would say FF has the far easier learning curve than Zelda. There just isn't any gaming skill involved in it.

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    FF is menu based. Not a hack and slash like Zelda is. Zelda, all you need to learn is to hack and slash your way through, use an occasional item here and there. In the FF games, you have to learn how to use your magic, use certain weapons, know when to use an item/magic/etc. I's not as easy as it seems to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Proto
    FF is menu based. Not a hack and slash like Zelda is. Zelda, all you need to learn is to hack and slash your way through, use an occasional item here and there. In the FF games, you have to learn how to use your magic, use certain weapons, know when to use an item/magic/etc. I's not as easy as it seems to be.
    Or not use it. You make it seem more complicated than it is. Up down left right....random battles. 'Learn' how to use magic is laughable. Run out of magic? Use the occasional item that you can buy in any town. Money a problem then go to an easier area to level up. Over level and make the game easier than dirt. No it really isn't that complicated. The system is built to make it super hard or super easy. If you don't really understand the game mechanics you can forget about learning them by always being over leveled.

    Also in FF it really isn't complicated when a certain item has to be used or a certain magic has to be used. Just read the item description. "Cures stone" I don't know what to use on my character that is in stone. It isn't complicated and isn't a learning curve. It is an attention span thing. Any one who gives a [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img] would figure this out instantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kentarou
    Quote Originally Posted by edczxcvbnm


    Just about every Zelda game has been sucessful also. Zelda, Zelda II, Link to the Past, Ocrina of Time, Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, Minish Cap, Oracle of Ages, Oracle of Seasons, Links Awakening. I think that is all of them. 10 games in 20 years.
    There's also the Four Swords games, if you count those. And don't forget CD-I. >_>
    Just about anyone don't count the CD-I Zelda games as games in the Zelda series, because Nintendo didn't make them. And who bought a CD-i anyway?

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