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Thread: Once again, The FF7 Romance Debate.

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    You know, we may be looking at these things out of context. Obviously not all of it, but some of it. Let us not forget that the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII remains incomplete to date, and we currently don't have the entire story. So perhaps this should be taken into account and also weighted appropriately with our evidence. Then again, perhaps not. Just a thought.

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    hey man...i didnt write it....its been a long time since i read it myself...i thought he had the "love triangle" thing down though...i will have to check it out....sorry......

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    I think that cloud was never into aerith. Remember, when she was alive, he thought he was zack, who was into her(that one was also sexual) He was always into tifa, which is shown blatantly in the end movie, when he grabs her hand

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    I think maybe the reason Cloud feels so guilty is becuase he was protecting her pretty much the entire time. For she hierd himas her body guard in the game, and although that kinda of fadded out I'm sure the whole protectivness feeling still remand. So when Sephiroth came down and killed her, he must felt the saddness of her death, plus the fatc that he faild in protecting her, wich is why he can't get her out of his head. I don't think it's love he's feeling for Aries, it's guilt. Also, the only reason Arie's would be infatuated with Cloud is becuase she see's Zack in him. If she didn't, than she probably wouldent have persude Cloud like she did. And if she didnt persue him, than i doubt anything would have happend, and Cloud would go straight to Tifa, instaed of getting alittle side tracked on the way there. Either way, I think he would end up being with Tifa.

    But hey many people know way more about this than I do, and I could certanly be wrong.

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    Okay, so I got my copy of FFVII back (finally) a few days ago and I played through making sure that I would get a date with Tifa. During the gondola scene, it seems that Cloud is completely clueless as to what Tifa is trying to tell him, while with Aerith, he says nothing. This could be a sign of not having a clue, but it seems more likely to me that he is just trying to mask his feelings by saying nothing.

    Cloud is not the type of person to just be silent when he doesn't understand something. There are cases of this all throughout the game, while on the other hand he is never truly open about his feelings in the game. Which is why I contend that his silence towards Aerith in the gondola is a sign of Cloud trying to hide his feelings. He doesn't want to tell Aerith that he loves her, but he doesn't want to tell her that he doesn't either, so he keeps his mouth shut in hopes that it will just go away.

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    I dont mind the romance stuff too much

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovehurts View Post
    I dont mind the romance stuff too much
    How is this even remotely on topic? If you're going to post in here, please contribute to the debate and not just make random comments. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aralith View Post
    How is this even remotely on topic? If you're going to post in here, please contribute to the debate and not just make random comments. Thank you.
    I did contribute. You strongly look into this love thing so I offered my views on it in short. I dont care about the romance. Im entittled to share my views on the sbject. The subject is romance and in short I dont care. If anything I was hoping to maybe suprise or humour one of you romance gurus in this thread.

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    heres my view on the matter.

    first. yuffie and cloud just doesnt work. i doubt theyd be a good match and although shes the only one you actually see kiss cloud (there are rumours about cloud and tifa having some sort of intikmacy under the highwind becuase in the morning she says something like "you were watching?" or depending on how youve treated her throughout the game "you were listening.".) anyway. im pretty sur eyuffie jusdt had some sort of minor crush which wouldnt turn into anything.

    so that leaves aeris and tifa. aeris is kind and not shy at all but she had to die which (if you count all of the events of the game.) tifa is really the only possible one and even if there was some way for aeris to survive i think tifa and cloud is still a better couple. tifa is optimistic and cheerful and theyve known each other for a long time. then again cloud is pretty much exactly the same person as zack because he has all of his memories and zack was aerises first boyfriend. i think it would work with aeris or tifa. aeris being more open and less shy about showing feeling towards cloud would probably mean they would get together before tifa gets a chance. but there are many different outcomes on FF7 E.G. who cloud dates at the golden saucer. so in conclusion id say it works either way and there is no single perfect match. seems as we all know tifa better and she has more time in te game and film than aeris, id say tifa isd the better match because of how much is known about her and how much she develops through the game. it could work either way but im in favour of cloud and tifa over cloud and aeris.

    im also pretty sure that tifa cares more about cloud than aeris does. and cloud might do the same. after all, they know each other well and i think square wanted them to be together. im quite sure that the tifa date at GS is supposed to be the easiest to get. im going to replay the game and get everyone elses date scene. i think distain brought up some good points about aeris and zack. perhaps aeris split up with zack and would do the same with cloud, but she might have only done that because sephiroth killed him.
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    I guess it really just come's down to what your prefrence is, and your personal views on the subject, since it seems that the relationship with Cloud could go either way between Tifa and Aries

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    Yeah I thought Aeris was soooooo annoying.. And her clothes were a bit like little girl clothes. I thought she was like 9 years old at first lol. I remember always being nice to tifa and not her lol. Then when Sephiroth stabbed her i was like awsome!!! thanks sephroth. I also didn't like Tifa after I found out she was a snobby little girl and didn't even know Cloud very well. So I think Cloud and Aeris were the best for eacj other because she seemed like she really loved him and etc....

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    Ok, strictly on ff7 (not AC or any other part of the compilation). Although originally, as they didn't have Tifa in the game, Cloud was meant to be with Aeris. However, once they decided to kill off Aeris and create this new character, Tifa (who is quite similar to Aeris in many ways), I believe that Cloud and Tifa were then meant to be together. In an interview, Tetsuya Nomura (is that his name? I forgot) stated that Tifa would be someone he'd be attracted to, both physically and emotionally. And, because he put a little bit of himself in Cloud, that's who Cloud is meant to be with. Also, that night under the Highwind... can't deny the chemistry there!
    But, because in ff7 you can choose your romantic interest (or, if you're not into romance, you can always "date" Barret), there is no clear answer. I believe that the creators wanted Cloud and Tifa to be together.
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    yeh...go to the whirlwind maze with tifa in your main party and listen to all that and go to the part inside clouds head.....basically cloud and tifa are in love....the part aeris died just reminded him of how weak he was back when he was a kid and couldnt save tifa on mt. nibel....there....case closed....hahahahahahah

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    You know, sephirothishere, I never thought of Aerith's death like that. That maybe the reason Cloud felt so much guilt (and consequentally why he felt he couldn't save anyone in AC) is because it was almost like his inability to save Tifa on Mt. Nibel. I can't believe I never thought of that before. Thank you. This does explain some things.

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    A good point, Sephy. Glad I thought of it.

    No, I'm not taking credit for your idea, I did think of it already, and I am addressing it in the essay, which will be written sooner or later. It's just taking so long because any time I bring up a point, I feel compelled to cross check every source I have to make sure I don't step over myself.

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