sephiroth

[Zeromus_X]

I don't care about the whole 'Kefka is better than Sephiroth!!11' thing because it's just some strange way of feeling better than anyone who likes Sephiroth anyhow.

I like Sephiroth. He isn't my favorite villain. There are obviously better villains. But I don't think he's a bad villain. He was pretty scary, and mysterious, so he's just your typical villain, I suppose. I liked how the group chased him (or a projection of him, whatever) around everywhere, a different way of following the villain than in most of the other FF games. (Of course, you don't know what on earth he's planning for half of the game, thus adding to his mysteriousness.)

And, well, I wish I had that sword.

Furthermore, it makes me giggle when people complain about lots of people declaring that Sephiroth is great, when more people go on about Kefka than anything.

[Xurts]

Wow, I thought this was common knowledge. Apparently not.


Jenova kills Aeris. It also kills all of the people in the Shinra HQ along with President Shinra. During the game Sephiroth never kills anything. He's frozen in Mako inside the Northern Crater for most of the game. Avalanche thought they were chasing after Sephiroth, but it was actually Jenova taking the form of Sephiroth.

[Rengori]

I thought that they were clones of Sephiroth that were doing the evil stuff, not Jenova.

[Ryushikaze]

Being controlled by Sephiroth. Jenova was a mindless puppet. So while Jenova's body did the killing, Sephy's will was commanding the body.

[Zeromus_X]

Yes, I knew it wasn't Seph but I wasn't sure if it was a projection or if it was Jenova. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Although, I had to play the game two times to piece together anything even remotely sensible...

[Rengori]

I've beaten it twice and it still confuses the hell outta me.

[Psychotic]

It's never been specifically stated that it's Jenova and not Sephiroth. It's all down to individual interpretation.

[Peter_20]

Yeah. She just was TOO wounded to have a Pheonix down or a Life spell casted on her <_<...

Actually, yes.

Phoenix Downs only work on knocked out characters, not killed ones.

[Xurts]

It's never been specifically stated that it's Jenova and not Sephiroth. It's all down to individual interpretation.

It has to be Jenova. Sephiroth can't be two places at once.

[Rengori]

It's never been specifically stated that it's Jenova and not Sephiroth. It's all down to individual interpretation.

It has to be Jenova. Sephiroth can't be two places at once.

Hojo cloned him a couple of times I believe.

[Xurts]

It's never been specifically stated that it's Jenova and not Sephiroth. It's all down to individual interpretation.

It has to be Jenova. Sephiroth can't be two places at once.

Hojo cloned him a couple of times I believe.

Yes, but all of those "clones" except for Cloud were failures and had succumbed to Mako Poisoning (except Zack). There is no way in hell one of those "clones" could've killed Aeris.

Even if they had withstood the Mako, none of them looked identical to Sephiroth. Jenova was the only creature that was able to shape shift. The only possible identities of Aeris's murderer are either Sephiroth or Jenova, and since Sephiroth was up at the Northern Crater during the incident at the Forgotten City, the only answer that would make sense is that Jenova killed her.

[Dignified Pauper]

i thought it was Jenova who was in command of Sephiroth. Further, i thought that Squall of Seed had this already sorted out in one of his webpages. it'd be awesome if someone pulled that up.

further, Kefka is vastly superior to Sephiroth for reasons already mentioned.

[Zeromus_X]

The Ultimania guide stated that Sephiroth's will was strong enough to resist Jenova's control. I never immediately thought that meant he necessarily controlled her, but that seems to be the case.

Yes, there are better villains. Why does that make him a bad villain? Can nobody answer that, or is this just going to be a thread full of 'Kefka is better becasue Sephiroht is overrateedd!!11one'? It seems to me like Kefka is the more overrated villain, in that case.

[Xurts]

i thought it was Jenova who was in command of Sephiroth. Further, i thought that Squall of Seed had this already sorted out in one of his webpages. it'd be awesome if someone pulled that up.

further, Kefka is vastly superior to Sephiroth for reasons already mentioned.

Here it is:
http://faqs.ign.com/articles/657/657331p1.html

Unfortunately, he didn't write a chapter explaining it, but I know it's in there somewhere. That's where I read about it from.

[Kain_Highwind]

Is there anybody else who thinks Hojo could be considered more of a villain than Sephiroth? I'm talking about the man who used his own child as a guinea pig before he was even born, transformed Vincent into an abomination out of spite, turned countless humans into vicious monsters, had Gast killed and stole his work, treated Aeris like any common animal, cloned one of the most dangerous men in the world, rejoiced when Sephiroth got the Black Materia, and nearly destroyed the entire city of Midgar, and all in the name of science and to further his own ambitions. Plus, once he found Gast's files, he knew the truth about Jenova, and still he orchestrated the Reunion by cloning Sephiroth and basically helped bring about the end of the world.