American Anime

[ShunNakamura]

He wasn't trying to shove anyone around. He pointed out a corrective bit a of trivia, and got understandably irritated when it was not only ignored but argued against incorrectly.

Meaning any who use it that way are well within being right and shouldn't have the 'purists' trying to shove them around.

I really dislike failure of logic.

I don't see anywhere around where I mentioned shoving that was a direct reference to Ryushikaze. Just to 'purists' in general. And often times I run into them they are both uppity and rude.

And besides if it was really as much as a no issue it would have refered to orgininally as a point of trivia, and this would not have become an issue.

And presenting the english sources that define and present usages of english words is really the only way to officially argue the english meaning of the word.

And then came the retarded dictionary "definition", that certainly had to be debated for its lack of actualy sustaining a definition. Its just a debate that's continuing because counterpoints keep coming.

The definition isn't *that bad*. Not as good as it could be, but it sums up the common usuage decently enough to stand. And the encyclopedia doesn't throw on the textra stuff.

Just pointed out the usage was incorrect. The way a lot of people like to point out that the "common" usage of OTAKU is incorrect. We accept this, shrug, and move on.

and I just pointed out that the usage(when concerning the english language) is correct, and the 'purists' usage is incorrect.

The fact remains, anime is a term that originated in Japan to refer to animation. Nothing less distinctive than that. Animation. Any animation. All animation.

For example, anime (アニメ) is gairaigo derived from the word "animation", but has been reborrowed into English with the meaning of "animation from Japan"

In japan anime means animation, in English it means animation from japan. Pretty simple. I have already shown that loan words do not need to retain thier original meaning.

You can argue that well the word is japanese in origin, and since the japanese apparently have no word to make a distinction towards their own style of animation, and we have our own term for animation (cartoons), I'll use their word for animation to refer to specifically their animation.

Or I could argue that that is exactly what it means, seeing as how the dictionary, the encyclopedia AND the common usage all agree on that definition?

Which is apparently exactly the same thing that happened with the word katana.

A loan word that didn't keep it's original/historic definition? No big deal, languages evolve.

Not a big deal. The only reason this debate got so heated is you found it prudent to vigilantly defend an arguably incomplete (if not incompitent) "definition".

The definition appears fairly complete,though there are things I would change about it. Rather the reason it got so long is because people such as yourself and Ryushikaze are unwilling to admit that the correct english usage is as the dictionary defines it.


And anyways it seems to me that the original post was indeed trying to say that others were wrong for using the English definition of the word.