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    when ultimecia possessed edea, ultimecia was in full control which would explian why they shared thoughts. squall and c.o's consciousness being projected into laguna, kiros and wards past bodies only meant they were aware of something weird and it also somehow made them stronger ( i think faeries is supposed to mean the strange feeling the 3 get that helps them through battles and thats something to do with squall and his teammates strength.) seems as ultimecia has full control where squall is just watching and sharing thoughts slightly id think ultimecia's control would have bigger effects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Go powerful women View Post
    Here we go friends. This is what the game tells us depending on where you are in it. Spoiler warining maybe. Anywho Ultimecia used a machine created by Odine that replicates Ellone's power to send people into the past. A machine that imitates Ellone's power coupled with the fact that Ultimecia is a sorceress could give her the power to possess and not just watch. Btw Faeries is what Laguna and the others called it when they felt Squall and the others presences. (Hoped that helped.) Also, Squall and the others never tried to take over or control Laguna and the others. They simply observed. As for Edea knowing about Ultimecia's plan it is at the ending of the game that you find that out. Spoiler During time compression Ultimecia traveled to the past and as she was dying she gave her powers to Edea. Squall went along and told Edea about the Garden and SeeD. Hope that helped ya all.
    It could also be that either when Edea succeeded Ultimecia that she became aware of Ultimeica's life or failed dying mission. OR, it could be that when possessed, one can hear her thoughts, like when Rinoa 'was young Adel'...

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    I can't believe people still respond to these threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abrojtm View Post
    I can't believe people still respond to these threads.
    And yet, here you are responding as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharoh Amon Khan III
    Quote Originally Posted by abrojtm
    I can't believe people still respond to these threads.
    And yet, here you are responding as well...
    He's right.

    Let's ponder over another one of FE's theories...

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    fortunately this theory makes a lot more sense than usual and is less based on rumour and suspicion.
    Last edited by boys from the dwarf; 08-30-2006 at 08:43 AM.
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    Squall in fact Possessed Laguna.
    How many times do I have to say that Laguna gets surprised if you change your returning path on Winhill?
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future Esthar View Post
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    People say that Edea knows about Ultiīs plans because she became aware of her thoughts while possessed.

    But that cannot be the case because we know that neither Laguna neither Kyros neither Ward were able to understand what the faeries were saying while sane,let alone on a crazed state.

    It may have been a ruse so she could get the Fated Children to fulfill their destiny, but that wouldn't explain how she knew the details of Ultimecia's plans... Hmm... Why do I feel I've been in this thread before...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future Esthar View Post
    Squall in fact Possessed Laguna.
    How many times do I have to say that Laguna gets surprised if you change your returning path on Winhill?
    Laguna brain farting is not sufficient evidence of possesion. You are overstating his 'surprise' to support your postulate du jour, as you have done previously.

    If Squall could control Laguna, Laguna would acting like Laguna, as Squall was utterly mortified by having to 'be the idiot' in his dreams. Laguna keeps acting himself.

    Of course, this won't stop you and your quest for evidence-less falsifiability.

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    I already explained it:
    Laguna says-"I usually didnīt take this path" or something along these lines.
    Would Laguna have lost his memory before this event he wouldnīt remember the path he used to take and would not realize he was doing something abnormal.This way he wouldnīt prevent the forces acting on him.
    In fact,a person without memory didnīt have an identity and thus he thinks he IS the person possessing him.He donīt try to act like himself because he didnīt know this "himself".
    That is what possession is about on FF8.
    Full possession like the one of Edea only occur on the assymptotic limit in which ones memory is fully erased.

    The very fact that Squall donīt like Laguna means nothing.
    It would not prevent Squall to choose a different path.
    Maybe he thinks that path is better.
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    Future Esthar, welcome back! Your insanity has been missed.

    I'm just going to address the first post, since all the responses got a little confusing.

    This can be explained simply and easily. You're wrong. Ok, I'll get a little more comlicated than that. Your conclusion seemed reasonable, given the evidence that you presented. However, that evidence was inaccurate, so the conclusion was invalid. Laguna and the gang did know about Squall and company. They may not have understood what the "fairies" were, but they were clearly aware of their thoughts.

    Laguna's line "Looks like the fairies are here" was a response to Squall's thoughts, not his actions. Thus, Edea likely knew about Ulti's thoughts, so, the question presented at the beginning does not arise.
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    Skyblade,they donīt understand WHAT THEY ARE SAYING.They are just aware of the existance of the thoughts.
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    Quote Originally Posted by Future Esthar View Post
    Skyblade,they donīt understand WHAT THEY ARE SAYING.They are just aware of the existance of the thoughts.
    I hate to say this, again, but: Prove it.
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    I already did that.
    Flo:Honey,the clock is late.Go out fix it.
    Mayor Dobe:What hours is it?
    Flo: 15:30
    Mayor Dobe:Hey do you wanna to send the Estharians to Centra or what?
    Flo:Ok,let it be on 3:45

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    No, you didn't. An explanation of the way things could possibly have worked is not, and has never been, proof.
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