America Under Attack thread, part deux.

[Morticia]

Originally posted by Marak
Well, it looks like the military action that about 80% of Polled Americans are in favor of (Don't throw things at me, I read it in the newspaper)

You know...just because you have an opinion that some don't, in the free world; you can express it without fear of reprisial. You have the First Amendment.

And on this; war is inevitable; but I predict it ripping the world in half. Those who say this war is justice will support the troops. Those who say this war is revenge will spit on everyone who supports the war. It's going to be the Vietnam of the 21st century.

Protests are already on by the pacifists at my college. I used to be a pacifist; but I do believe in enforcing the law; even international law.

*sighs* What will they say about us in a millienium?

Phoenix

[Marak]

Originally posted by Morticia


You know...just because you have an opinion that some don't, in the free world; you can express it without fear of reprisial. You have the First Amendment.

Phoenix

I only said that because it seems that whenever you say something pro-war in this thread, someone jumps on you.

[Endless]

Depends on personnality, as well as how people react to the events, and their background.

Originally posted by Morticia

*sighs* What will they say about us in a millienium?

What we say about Middle-Age. Mankind is a lost case.

Remember me to find you this text by P. Valéry : "Mourir pour des idées".

[Cyan Highwind]

TO ALL: Freedom ISN'T Free. It the Blood and sweat of milllons to make the world what it is today. Bin Laden has reversed our efforts for a peaceful world.
(which is impossble in my opinoin because someone's heart will always be filled with greed) What will they say about us? what their saying about the WW2 Generation.

[-N-]

Cyan: Orwell's pithy maxim "Freedom is Slavery" comes to mind, does it not?

Master Vivi: I vaguely remember touching upon that text in AP French. I should try to muster my way through that book to prepare for les lectures on the test...

I only said that because it seems that whenever you say something pro-war in this thread, someone jumps on you.

*jumps on you*

Well, it's just that when you say that, others feel a need to defend their position by attacking yours. That's why I'm starting to get sick of this debating nonsense. I even dropped my Speech and Debate class this year. I'd probably end up doing that too, but I'll just state my view tersely.

Rebuild first. Take care of the terrorists diplomatically if possible. If not, then military action is all that's left. But, at least don't harm the innocents. That's all. That's not too much to ask, is it?

[Meteor of War]

im probably going to be extradited and flamed for this, but here goes
i feel very little sympathy for the amercians right now, sure it is a tragedy but there have been so many and so much worse tragedys around the world
the media says that this is the worst act of terrorism in the world, how quickly do we forget about the past, i seem to recall a nation killing 200 000 innocent civillians in world war 2, which is the worst tragedy in the world to this date

[Cyan Highwind]

Not that I'm yelloing but 6 millon innocent jews were slaughtered in World War 2 not to metion Veitnam (150,000 Us soilders) and Prez Bush just said this was an act of war and said we will bring justice to or enmeys and he Said: there are two groups now those that are with us and those that are againist us! (CHINA? CUBA?)

[Dr. Disco]

Originally posted by Meteor of War
im probably going to be extradited and flamed for this, but here goes
i feel very little sympathy for the amercians right now, sure it is a tragedy but there have been so many and so much worse tragedys around the world
the media says that this is the worst act of terrorism in the world, how quickly do we forget about the past, i seem to recall a nation killing 200 000 innocent civillians in world war 2, which is the worst tragedy in the world to this date

Umm, I think that's a misquote:This is the worse act of terrorism on US soil, not the world.

Also, Cuba is with us. China...hmm....

[Morticia]

China is one of the Big Five on the UN Security Council (one of the five permanent members); they support us.

Cuba has expressed sympathy for the US.

Yeah; I have noticed a strong anti-war sentiment here. Some don't realize that you can't reason with bin Lauden. If the entire Islamic world went to him and told him that he was wrong and that Allah did not sanction his actions nor his "Jyhad," he would label them as apostates and rally his group in closer. Afghanistan is under control of the Talabied; a group of extreme fundamentalist warlords who came to power in 1996. This group is so extreme that they stone women who do not wear the veils over their faces. Women are mere property. Only those who are members of the Talabied regime have food, shelter, and water that is clean. The people of Afghanistan have neither the strength (weapons or physical) to overthrow this regime. The Talabied isn't going to hand over bin Lauden; he's got them under his thumb. If we go in to get him; they go to war against us.

So; what do we do? Shrug off the attacks upon us and go on?

You can't reason with a fanatic. You will only waste your breath and time.

Aside from that; this war is going to be fought on a very psychological front. We're not just fighting an army or trying to capture a city; we're fighting an idea; a belief. Only time or total demoralization of the idea will bring victory.

A lot of people can't see that. They can't process just how deep this goes. *shrugs*

Basically; if you think you're going to say something that will offend someone who has the authority to ban you; keep your thoughts to yourself. Don't put it on the fora.

Phoenix

[Mad-psycho]

One thing to say: Don't piss off Pakistan or any country with nukes.

[Cyan Highwind]

Prez Bush said this was a war agianist all terrorists (AKA Sadam Hassem or what I like to call him So Damn Insane)pakenstan does NOT have nuclear capiblities why else who they use planes and not just bomb the Shisnit out of us however So damn insane does have nuclear capiablity so does south veitnam, Iraq, iran, china, cuba, ect ect (anyone who's not an ally) besides the Us and Russia have their finger on the Trigger of 40000 Cold war nucs all over the world and a the first sign of war forgive my bluntness:BOOM!he he he
(blow them back to the stone age baby)

[CloudOverHeaven]

well their nukes really arent a threat to us... they know they'd only dent us then pay big time by us sinking their whole damm country

[Britt]

they know they'd only dent us then pay big time by us sinking their whole damm country

I'm sorry, but that's the most naive thing I've heard in a very, very long time. If someone shot a nuke, we'd shoot nukes back. Eventually both countries would be craters. A nuclear weapon does not "just make a dent," on any terms. I don't suppose I have to remind anyone about nuclear winter, either.

[Cyan Highwind]

NUCLEAR WINTER: The thing that frightens me most
Nuclear weapons are the most powerful weapons in the universe and yet humans weild them like a kid who found his dad's gun.

[Jojee]

Heh, nuclear winter ^.~ There was a really interesting quote from Einstein somewhere or other... it went something like, ""I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought with, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." Very true, I think ^.^ Einstein has a lotta good quotes. *off topic*