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    As established in my last post, Squall thinks of Griever as a very strong creature, quite possibly the strongest creature of his daydreams/imagination. He says as much in the game. You agree then that it would be highly reasonable that Ultimecia would set Squall up against that thing he considers so strong. It makes perfect sense from a tactical perspective, which is how Ultimecia would be thinking. Why Squall considers Griever so strong isn't up for debate, since he says it himself (see the quote in my last post). As for how Griever looks, well, Ultimecia probably embellished him to make him look even more intimidating.
    Well... I'm torn here. There are times when I agree with you, and times when it still just seems completely daft. I know Squall says lions are strong, and given the (Japanese) text, it kinda fits... But still, if you iignore that text and just consider the actual situation... Is Squall likely to be intimidated by a figment of his imagination (or any monster for that matter)? Is there any real indication that Squall ever imagined Griever to be anything other than a lion, and even then, as something scary? Why would Ultimecia only summon Squall's worst fear, and how could she junction herself to it (something vague regarding Tiamat is flashing in my head as a counter to that second part, but I'll leave it for now..) Does the slight mention of Griever two discs prior really justify its position as 'what Squall considers strongest'? Even if it did then, would it still by Disc 4?... I'm sure this list goes on, and I know the text adds weight (arguably) to your version, but without it, it just doesn't really seem to stand up that well.
    True, if we ignore the text then the idea seems a little less likely...but I could ignore alot of things in FFVIII and just as easily say that Quina = Ultimecia.


    Yeah you win that ... The feathers take on another layer meaning if R=U is true, but other than that you pretty much killed them as any kind of supportive tool .
    Actually it just occurred to me... Does Adel have wings? I'm pretty sure Edea doesn't. If only Rinoa and Ultimecia have them, then whilst this is by no means conclusive, and you're right the symbolism of light versus dark still applies, then that fact does at least tenuously indicate a stronger relationship between Rinoa and Ultimecia than that they are both sorceresses.
    Adel does not have wings. However, the good vs. evil can still apply. Sure, they could've given Adel the black wings, but really Adel is only on the screen for about 15 minutes in a battle sequence and then never seen again so putting emphasis on her wings isn't going to be noticed as much as putting wings on the main female character and the main villain. Besides, Adel still does kind of have what could be likened to 'wings'.



    All the Sorceresses had wings and horn. Be they clothing by design, ethereal representation, or physical mutation.

    Edea had a headdress or mutation of her skull for her horns, and she wore a veiled cape in the style like wings.

    Adel, also wore a horn style headress or physical mutation, and also wore a wing-motiff that hovered behind her seemingly 'attached'.

    Rinoa... Though she does not have a horn motiff, she does have Ethereal Wings, when using the Sorceress Power.

    And Finally, all the "Succession of Witches" have had the wings and horns and evolved through time (be it transition of Rinoa or not) to the Ultimate End of the Successsion: Ultimecia.

    So, all Sorceresses have had and/or will have the horns/wings be they real or not, are a representation of a Sorceress... By what I can tell...

    BTW: How the hell did Adel get so... Huge?

    More later...
    Last edited by Pharoh Amon Khan III; 08-17-2006 at 08:10 PM.

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