And apparently you missed that 'fact' that is will persist because it is perspective just like all the 'proven' 'factual' 'truths' of 'how' the ending occuerred. From all the people that have posted and shared, there is no ONE conclusive, evident, secular, ending to FFVIII. That is why I'm trying to understand the vehement loathing of the R=U "Theory" other than that there are those they don't won't others to see it as that and only just out of that hatred of that vision. I truly hope I am wrong as that I don't want to be wrong. I just want to UNDERSTAND.... And then come to some sort of amerliration...