Quote Originally Posted by Pharoh Amon Khan III View Post
Ryusaki
Control C or don't even try.

I am not gonna get into this with you. Because no matter what I say, it's just gonna turn into a slugfest with you.
'Because I'm being mean' is not a valid argument.

You would think Caraway would suddenly be a father. I would think the same but it could turn out differently.
He may be heavy handed, but he does seem to care about his daughter.

This is almost like the Dark Phoenix Saga, and I'm not talking about those crappy watered-down cartoon versions of the story. I'm talking about the original story. But like most, who have only seen the cartoon versions, they will fight tooth and nail because Jean Grey was the Phoenix. I say, I don't care. I know the truth and that's all the matters to me, and I just watch their little tales and theories about the phoenix force and what not. It doesn't bother me. That's not the case here.
Oh please, next time try using an example that hasn't been retconned all to hell.

Now the only 'evidence' to your claim is that you simply don't like the even the possibility that Rinoa could become Ultimecia, and that's all. You're the perfect example of those that desperately cling to the "Happy Ending"...
Textbook case appeal to motive.

My evidence, has already been posted before, go back and read it. And the thing is you have no 'evidence' against it either.
Concession Smegging accepted on the succession. Your 'evidence', before this, has been vague handwavy interpretations, certainly not enough to support a claim as outrageous as Rinoa living numerous generations past her fellows, going insane, and trying to become god.

Basically we're right where I said in the beginning: a war of perspective.
Basically, you can't realize that you cannot use perspective to endlessly defend.

Sir Bahamut states that Squall is seeing Time Compression break down; Ryusakie
Y'know what, you're officially not allowed to try and spell my name ever again. If you can't get it even get it wrong in a consistent manner, don't even bother trying to use it in the first place.

says that it's Squall hallucinating... Is either factally evidenced, or just prespective?
I fail to see how what he said is mutually exclusive with what I said. One could quite easily cause the other.

I see the possibility you CHOOSE not to. And so now that that is dealt with... Why can't Rinoa possibly become Ultimecia?
Firstly, please do not pretend that the burden of proof is on me. You're making the claim, so you have to provide evidence why and how Rinoa could become Ulti, and give sufficient evidence to show that these ways are so. Secondly, I see the possibility of R=U. I also see the possibility that Irvine = Ulti. The latter is only slightly less plausible than the first.
Though to humor you-
Rinoa's lack of Immortality, and thus inability to live so long that everyone else she knows will be long dead, for one. It requiring her to basically become an entirely different person- thus being Rinoa in body only, for two. Thirdly, it relies on numerous assumptions for which far more parsimonious explanations exist, both in what is chooses as 'evidence' and 'sequence of events'. Fourthly, NONE of the supplemental materials, especially not the Ultimania, give any support for it, and actually give evidence that makes it even less possible to exist, and such an omission from a book designed to 'give all the answers' like the Ultimania omitting such an important detail is really really REALLY unlikely.