explanations. *serious spoilers. do not read uless you hae completed the game.*

[Ryushikaze]

As for Ryu, he's not making any points from my point of view, he's just criping and doing anything he can to make a childish retort to anything he doesn't want to be a possibility at the very least. Not even the idea of Rinoa becoming Ultimecia is his problem. Clearly, he doesn't understand anything I say.

Y'know, for someone who gets cheesed off when I come anywhere close to insulting you, you certainly aren't taking pains to be civil.

And also, there's no way I'm going to respond to a (new net-slang term coming up kids!) "Quote Qwazy" post like that. That's just crazy, self-indulgent and delusional because he obviously has too much time on your hands. And as I said, he didn't understand anything I said. I have nothing to say to Ryu...

Yes... It's my point by point posting method, and NOT the points therein that you don't want to deal with. RIIIIIIIGHT. Y'know, only one other person that I can remember used my posting methodology as an excuse to beg out of an argument with me. Joining that group does not reflect favorably on you, Khan.
And for the record, Ad Hominem.
Also for the record, Concession Accepted. Good day.

Addendum: Heck, I'll deal with some of this anyways...

Odine, whom I find to boastful in his statement about the future, is constantly used as 'truth', but it was Odine himself, who is older than most of the characters says that he built the machine for Ultimecia, almost in the context that it was in his life time and under Ultimecia's orders...

No. He doesn't. And if you want to claim he does, provide evidence.

Aside from remaining cosmetically beautiful, Ultimecia doesn't seem to be the perfect picture of health. If I remember correctly,(and I could be wrong) she was struggling more than stuttering words, and she looked kinda of 'shakey' when she stands. Ah, coulda beent the weight of the horns on her head...

Yes. You are incorrect. You've been incorrect on a LOT of things having to do with FF8, sometimes despite being corrected.