Originally Posted by
Pharoh Amon Khan III
Ah, there it is... See, I'm not saying that Squall needs to die. I'm saying that some people interpet it that way. And that's okay, because it's reasonable they would see it that way.
It's reasonable that they jump to that conclusion. It is not reasonable that they try and make their assumption, their positive assertion, into fact.
Even those that say he 'fainted' saw it the first time they played the game as he was dead...
Gonna have to kibosh that and tell you that when I saw it, I thought he was at most comatose, and was just passed out from sheer exhaustion.
The entire mood of the this scene portrays utter sadness and we are not assured the exact fate of Squall until the final scene. This is why there is speculation. Let's take a look. You'll also note in the clip it's questionable that is Rinoa talking to Squall, or just gone into the 'denial stage' of mourning. But those questions are soon resolved... ;D
If you're talking about the "Squall was a hallucination" argument, oi. That's a grand deciever argument, and those fail by default, I'm afraid. It makes for decent fanfiction, but as an attempt to unravel the truth, it's rather useless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mwqgUJeQNs
Upon seeing this scene for the first time, one assumes that Squall is dead by the portral of the events and Rinoa's expressions.
The way she hugs him closely is what makes one believe that she is so heart-broken.
Actually, when I saw her hugging, I was reminded of the tight embracing of one who one has just recovered something very dear to them, like my mother once did after I was climbing a tree and the branch I was on broke, and I managed to get out of the situation unharmed.
And so, it goes that he either fainted and she realized she thought too soon, OR the Power of the Sorceress Rinoa brings them both out of Time Compression Decay and Squall alive again.
And the former is far more parsimonious.
It can go either way. I just don't see the arguement that if someone thinks Squall died is a problem.
It's not so much a problem as it is bad in the reductionalist sense, since it adds extra unsupported terms to the explanation of the scene.
The only thing you're talking about is the final scene where he is clearly alive. What WE'RE focusing on it the initial scene when Rinoa finds him. Dead or alive, fainted, whatever...
No, I was focused on the scene in question from the start.
I personally think either/all view(s) is/are acceptable for in the final scene he IS standing with Rinoa.
So Squall is a Pupu? Christmas will be so pleased! Seriously though, not all views are equal, though it can often be hard to tell why they are not. Not all of them can be as blatant as "so, how did they get back to Garden after the end of the game?" "Teleportation, LOL!".
Some think that if Rinoa is Utilmecia that the ending with them standing together was the "Everlasting Moment" Ultimecia-Rinoa was trying to achieve...
Then Ulti is either the stupidest or most intelligent insane genius I've ever met.
Again, either way I personally find acceptable. There's no need to argue simply because someone sees it differently. The only thing that is evident is...
THE END
It's not really about seeing it differently, it's about supporting your view with empirical backing. And, as a reductionalist, shaving away all but the simplest viable explanation.