do you consider rap to be music? IF YOU LIKE RAP DONT COME IN HERE

[feona17]

This thread isnt necessarly about what is music by definition. It is a thread full of many humans
Many personalities
Many opinions

People simply are stating what they consider to be music , people could care less about the definition of music and simply can respect rap as music or choose to disown it. PEOPLE CAN HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND FEELINGS!!!! No one has tried to change anyones mind here or force there views on another.....

But you can't say it isn't music, because it is. Music has a freaking definition, it's not really a matter of opinion. It's like saying Kool-Aid isn't a liquid because you hate it.

To alot of you it may be music and if you pull out a dictionary you may tell me it is music and I would agree with you that according to a book worm and an educated or knowledgefull person that it may be music.

So you're telling me that you want to be ignorant and not a "educated person" and say it isn't music because you don't like it.

That's being closed minded right there honey.

[Shiny]

To err clear things up I consider rapping to bea crap form of singing unless it is singing some random techno-like music in the background. Then it's music of some sort. Yeah it sucks but it can be music and it can't. W/e.I'm a metalhead so ehhhhh...

Well, based on that logic some metal must be music and some may not. I think it all boils down to if you are willing to accept the fact that rap and the Hip Hop culture is very popular and has been for years now. There are people who are open-minded to all different genres and they can appreciate some artists from each. And those people are able to understand the fact that music doesn't always have to be something they enjoy experiencing, or something they are familiar with.

[lovehurts]

This thread isnt necessarly about what is music by definition. It is a thread full of many humans
Many personalities
Many opinions

People simply are stating what they consider to be music , people could care less about the definition of music and simply can respect rap as music or choose to disown it. PEOPLE CAN HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND FEELINGS!!!! No one has tried to change anyones mind here or force there views on another.....

But you can't say it isn't music, because it is. Music has a freaking definition, it's not really a matter of opinion. It's like saying Kool-Aid isn't a liquid because you hate it.

To alot of you it may be music and if you pull out a dictionary you may tell me it is music and I would agree with you that according to a book worm and an educated or knowledgefull person that it may be music.

So you're telling me that you want to be ignorant and not a "educated person" and say it isn't music because you don't like it.

That's being closed minded right there honey.

When is an opinion baised on strong feelings ignorant . One may say that it is perrfectally naturall. People often exzarate things when they feel strongly about them wouldnt you say so. It is socially correct to exzarate when you feel strongly about something . That is all that I have done here. I never disputted what music is or what the definiton is rather . But I simply stated that I dont consdier rap music. Some poeple may feel strongly enough about disowning or disliking rap as me to say the same thing. There is nothing closed minded about it and I think even using the words close minded makes the person more closed minded than the person they are saying it to. I may be a little quilty there though.


As a matter of fact some people did feel strongly enough about disliking rap as I did to disown it as I did and to say it wasnt music due to there strong feelings and exzarations.

Its called an exzaration due to strong feelings. It socially happens all the time. Im just not the sort of person to un-creatively and boringly look at the definitions on webster and to give a boring dull narrow view of what most people consider music. So if you want to have an intelligent conversation with me you'll have to put more effort into it.


I already stated how strongly i feel about disowning rap and my feelings would be obvious to a chimp. So maybe you can realize that I exzarated due to strong feelings of not liking rap and you could question why I dont like it instead of boringly and dully looking at an web sites definition....

[feona17]

This thread isnt necessarly about what is music by definition. It is a thread full of many humans
Many personalities
Many opinions

People simply are stating what they consider to be music , people could care less about the definition of music and simply can respect rap as music or choose to disown it. PEOPLE CAN HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND FEELINGS!!!! No one has tried to change anyones mind here or force there views on another.....

But you can't say it isn't music, because it is. Music has a freaking definition, it's not really a matter of opinion. It's like saying Kool-Aid isn't a liquid because you hate it.

To alot of you it may be music and if you pull out a dictionary you may tell me it is music and I would agree with you that according to a book worm and an educated or knowledgefull person that it may be music.

So you're telling me that you want to be ignorant and not a "educated person" and say it isn't music because you don't like it.

That's being closed minded right there honey.

When is an opinion baised on strong feelings ignorant . One may say that it is perrfectally naturall. People often exzarate things when they feel strongly about them wouldnt you say so. It is socially correct to exzarate when you feel strongly about something . That is all that I have done here. I never disputted what music is or what the definiton is rather . But I simply stated that I dont consdier rap music. Some poeple may feel strongly enough about disowning or disliking rap as me to say the same thing. There is nothing closed minded about it and I think even using the word close minded makes the person more closed minded than the person they are saying it to. I may be a little quilty there though.


As a matter of fact some people did feel strongly enough about disliking rap as I did to disown it as I did and to say it wasnt music due to there strong feelings and exzarations.

Its called an exzaration due to strong feelings. It socially happens all the time. Im just not the sort of person to un-creatively and boringly look at the definitions on webster and to give a boring dull narrow view of what most people consider music. So if you want to have an intelligent conversation with me you'll have to put more effort into it.


I already stated how strongly i feel about disowning rap and my feelings would be obvious to a chimp. So maybe you can realize that I exzarated due to strong feelings of not liking rap and you could question why I dont like it instead of boringly and dully looking at an web sites definition....

I understand that you have your strong negative feelings about rap music. Humans exaggerate all the time, feelings can be overwhelming and we say things like, "I hate rap, so it isn't music." I might've said that too to myself when watching a 50 Cent video, but it's not like I meant it. It was said out of anger, out of passionate feelings which led me to exaggerate. But, I know it's not fact.

You tried to start a debate over your feelings about something, without backing it up with facts. We're going to go in circles because of it. People will say if you think Rap isn't music, let's look up the definition of music, (I for one looked in my own encyclopedia of which isn't on the internet). We found that yes, Rap is music. It's the damn truth, and we all understand your feelings about, and most of us feel the same or similarly to you.

But don't try to say that inFACT rap isn't music, because it does make you look ignorant whether you want it to or not. I honestly do understand where you're coming from, though. What was your purpose in starting this thread, to discuss it like a debate or just to say your opinion of rap?

[I Am Stoner]

This place needs some mary jane and some buckets. WOOOO!! YEA!!

Also, rap is a form of music. It really is. You are using your voice to create rythum with your words. Rythum = A important factor witch makes up music. Without rythum, timing, tempo, BPM, metranomes, drums, singers you can kiss music goodbye. Again, just stating a FACT. I could get really techincal, but I really cant be smurfed.

[lovehurts]

This thread isnt necessarly about what is music by definition. It is a thread full of many humans
Many personalities
Many opinions

People simply are stating what they consider to be music , people could care less about the definition of music and simply can respect rap as music or choose to disown it. PEOPLE CAN HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND FEELINGS!!!! No one has tried to change anyones mind here or force there views on another.....

But you can't say it isn't music, because it is. Music has a freaking definition, it's not really a matter of opinion. It's like saying Kool-Aid isn't a liquid because you hate it.

To alot of you it may be music and if you pull out a dictionary you may tell me it is music and I would agree with you that according to a book worm and an educated or knowledgefull person that it may be music.

So you're telling me that you want to be ignorant and not a "educated person" and say it isn't music because you don't like it.

That's being closed minded right there honey.

When is an opinion baised on strong feelings ignorant . One may say that it is perrfectally naturall. People often exzarate things when they feel strongly about them wouldnt you say so. It is socially correct to exzarate when you feel strongly about something . That is all that I have done here. I never disputted what music is or what the definiton is rather . But I simply stated that I dont consdier rap music. Some poeple may feel strongly enough about disowning or disliking rap as me to say the same thing. There is nothing closed minded about it and I think even using the word close minded makes the person more closed minded than the person they are saying it to. I may be a little quilty there though.


As a matter of fact some people did feel strongly enough about disliking rap as I did to disown it as I did and to say it wasnt music due to there strong feelings and exzarations.

Its called an exzaration due to strong feelings. It socially happens all the time. Im just not the sort of person to un-creatively and boringly look at the definitions on webster and to give a boring dull narrow view of what most people consider music. So if you want to have an intelligent conversation with me you'll have to put more effort into it.


I already stated how strongly i feel about disowning rap and my feelings would be obvious to a chimp. So maybe you can realize that I exzarated due to strong feelings of not liking rap and you could question why I dont like it instead of boringly and dully looking at an web sites definition....

I understand that you have your strong negative feelings about rap music. Humans exaggerate all the time, feelings can be overwhelming and we say things like, "I hate rap, so it isn't music." I might've said that too to myself when watching a 50 Cent video, but it's not like I meant it. It was said out of anger, out of passionate feelings which led me to exaggerate. But, I know it's not fact.

You tried to start a debate over your feelings about something, without backing it up with facts. We're going to go in circles because of it. People will say if you think Rap isn't music, let's look up the definition of music, (I for one looked in my own encyclopedia of which isn't on the internet). We found that yes, Rap is music. It's the damn truth, and we all understand your feelings about, and most of us feel the same or similarly to you.

But don't try to say that inFACT rap isn't music, because it does make you look ignorant whether you want it to or not. I honestly do understand where you're coming from, though. What was your purpose in starting this thread, to discuss it like a debate or just to say your opinion of rap?

People like you make this thread. People like me make this thread. I made a post saying how I feelt and in fact it was debating for several pages. Yet it is still going on. How you call me ignorant actually is appreciated. Do you know why it is appreciated?

Because when you call me ignorant it shows me that you have given me a little bite. A little agression. This is a good thing but do you know why?

Because it tells me that you feel strongly about it the other way and I am open minded enough to hear you out and to consider some of your points when you care about what you are talking about.

When you strongly disagree with me I am actually honored that you post. Because when you share what you feel strongly about it shows me that you take your time in posting. It demands for me to use a little more effort to reply to you.

A complete post in a disagreement should be personall.

So what could be better than to make a 1st dramatic and overly personall post for a thread? Do you understand ? Prehaps if this went on for another 4 pages you would....

[I Am Stoner]

YAY FOR TEDDIES!!!

Lets all kiss and make up, go on, kissy-kissy. If not I will actually find everyone and eat all of your food in the fridge so you will have to go out and buy more. MWAHAHAHAHA!!!

[NorthernChaosGod]

I like you.

She's very smart and very taken.

Shucks. But that's really not what I meant.

[I Am Stoner]

YAY FOR TEDDIES!!!

Lets all kiss and make up, go on, kissy-kissy. If not I will actually find everyone and eat all of your food in the fridge so you will have to go out and buy more. MWAHAHAHAHA!!!

*Feels sorry for Stoner.

Some of the stuff in my fridge defies all logic, sensibility, and FDA regulations.

Ahh its all good. Mmmmmm..... Food poisoining. Just get me stoned i'll eat anything.

BUT I think we are all agreed on one fact right?

Without music the world would suck.

[bipper]

There is hardly a rap song I will respect. Not because its rap, but because its main representatives are pig headed isotaric idiots. I don't care if you use the n word in 10 different ways and can flash a real gun on TV so long as you are shooting on a set located in a place where you are in legal concordance doing so. Rapping about being a badass via demoralization, oprresion, dehumaitzation, violence, slander, and sexual obtucenss is nothing to be considered anything worth considering. The general growth of rap goes directly against my beleifs, and against most bleifs that strive for a healthy society. Unfortunately, this minor branch of rap has been commercialised and bastardised the whole thoery of rap. Hip hop.. whatever. I am not hatin the game, I am hatein the playa's.

Rap is Crap. Simple enough.

Bipper

[Shiny]

You've only heard a few rap songs then, bipper, because most of the rap I listen to is not about negative things like that at all. Why is that people act like rap is the only genre of music that has all those negative things in them? I'm pretty sure rock is notorious for it.

[I Am Stoner]

Bipper: Then what did Jurrasic 5 do? They never said any of that stuff. They were in it for the music. They were legends, just listen to thier tracks man, so rythmical and funky. Also they rapped about freedom and love. Not death and gangstas.

[Hawkeye]

The bigger question is whether we consider country to be music.

Some rap is fine. It's funny if you catch the lyrics, but some rap is just dreadful. Eminem is funny rap; Beastie Boys is funny rap. Artists like 50 Cent are just annoying.

[bipper]

Bipper: Then what did Jurrasic 5 do? They never said any of that stuff. They were in it for the music. They were legends, just listen to thier tracks man, so rythmical and funky. Also they rapped about freedom and love. Not death and gangstas.

And thier commercial influence is nil. That is , when you compare it to fiddy sent etc. ewe. A community is responsable for its social politics. Jurasic 5 could have done more to promote a posative image. If they fail, like they did, rap fails.

I am basing an all but conclusive opinion on a broad gender. Naturally there will be good stuff, like eminem can be, and Beastie boys. The truth of the matter is, my exposure will be limited mostly do boom boom wiggy wiggy uuuuuuuuuuungh Masta pimp make you say ungggggggggggggh.

[El Bandito]

How is it rap's fault that America digs the stereotypical demeaning tripe on the radio? People will do and say anything to make a couple million bucks.

In Canada, this rapper K-OS is extremely popular and he completely goes against the generic rapper shell. His stuff is really refreshing and the public really digs it.

Even in the current US's mainstream there are artists who DO sell and manage to be unique. Maybe you've heard of Kanye West or Common?

I can't imagine how a current fad in music can completely disavow an entire genre.