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    Close minded much?


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    I am not against rap, but I am against 50 cent, Eminem Outkast. All those guys are in it for the money. GRRRRR!!! It pisses me off when people do that. How ever, bands such as, The Fugees, RAtM, The Exocutioners. Those bands I like. So I guess rap is a double sided genre like all music, there is good and there is bad. But thats more than my 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeldy View Post
    Rap is just talking speeded up rediculously
    So is most music...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsu View Post
    Close minded much?
    Not to mention completely ignorant. Oh well, if people want to make themselves look like fools, then so be it.

    Hip Hop and Rap is an expression, it's a lifestyle, it's whatever you make of it. You can like it or not, that doesn't matter, it's your personal choice. But to say "rap is just this, blah blah" or "it's RETARDS ATTEMPTING POETRY LOL" is pretty much just dumb. It takes talent and skill just like any other form of expression, and if you tried it you'd most likely suck at it, and suck at it horribly.

    Everything has origins and reasons for existing, rap is no different, and though yes today's mainstream rap music is pretty much horrible, it doesn't speak for all rap music that exists, 50 Cent does not represent the entire genre of rap, nor hip hop nor anything else you care to mention, and basing a vastly varied genre such as rap and hiphop on the mainstream is just silly.

    Yes, yes it is. Every song sounds exactly the same and usually has to do with the same things too. I wish for a rap saying how <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif">ty rappers are like 50 Cent and all his little folk. If rap wasn't made, the music world would still be all.......

    METAL!!!!!
    Yeah, because Metal totally doesn't have thousands of crappy bands that all sound the same with unorignal boring riffs, angsty crap vocals, and utterly <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif">e music.

    Don't get me wrong, I believe personally that the most talented musicians around today are the ones making Metal, GOOD metal, but the amount of utter crap that comes out of the metal scene makes rap look amazing. Though, seeing as you seem to like Linkin Park I don't think you know what you're talking about anyway.

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    The majority of rap IMO is horrible, but a few are actually decent. I've not listened to any rap song that goes above average because most of them seem to have the same beat, just with different instruments and lyrics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DK View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hsu View Post
    Close minded much?
    Not to mention completely ignorant. Oh well, if people want to make themselves look like fools, then so be it.

    Hip Hop and Rap is an expression, it's a lifestyle, it's whatever you make of it. You can like it or not, that doesn't matter, it's your personal choice. But to say "rap is just this, blah blah" or "it's RETARDS ATTEMPTING POETRY LOL" is pretty much just dumb. It takes talent and skill just like any other form of expression, and if you tried it you'd most likely suck at it, and suck at it horribly.

    Everything has origins and reasons for existing, rap is no different, and though yes today's mainstream rap music is pretty much horrible, it doesn't speak for all rap music that exists, 50 Cent does not represent the entire genre of rap, nor hip hop nor anything else you care to mention, and basing a vastly varied genre such as rap and hiphop on the mainstream is just silly.

    Yes, yes it is. Every song sounds exactly the same and usually has to do with the same things too. I wish for a rap saying how <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif">ty rappers are like 50 Cent and all his little folk. If rap wasn't made, the music world would still be all.......

    METAL!!!!!
    Yeah, because Metal totally doesn't have thousands of crappy bands that all sound the same with unorignal boring riffs, angsty crap vocals, and utterly <img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif"><img src="/xxx.gif">e music.

    Don't get me wrong, I believe personally that the most talented musicians around today are the ones making Metal, GOOD metal, but the amount of utter crap that comes out of the metal scene makes rap look amazing. Though, seeing as you seem to like Linkin Park I don't think you know what you're talking about anyway.

    LP is not the only thing i like tho, in fact its one of my least favorite bands that i like, compared to everything else like Iron Maiden Metallica, and such.

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    I personally hate the majority of mainstream rap music. It sounds nothing like singing to me. Not to mention most of the songs are about the same subject. As far as I know, the only good rap worth listening to is underground or anything made before the mid-90's.

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    Most definetly yes
    Rap is another form of blending music with words in a somewhat arguably creative way. As long as it contains some sort of melody even if a little repetitive it still marks down as containing some musical content. A lot of recent raps (certainly not too my taste) are tracks in which the artists pinch a few notes from a popular song, have it played over and over again, slap in a beat and begin incoherently babbling over it. Mind you there have been a few good raps out there but unfortunately the modern-day tasteless versions have overshadowed the genre as a whole resulting in a lot of people branding it as crap
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrianna View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Æ¿æƒ2 View Post
    I've heard that Rap is an acronym for "rhythm and poetry" which if it's true, then no rap isn't music. Because if it was, then stupid beatniks reciting poetry to some bongos would have to be considered music too.
    :laugh: Yes, and no one argues that beatnik freeform is music but it was never so popular either. If it had been you can be sure that there would be claims it was. It is as if by saying it's music they somehow become "legitimate". I just don't see the point. Why not accept what it is and rejoice in it? It's not like it is lessened by not being music, only by how it is expressed. Oh, how popular expression lesses it every year.
    At least someone acknowledges what I say, sheesh. Hell, even if it isn't music, I listen to some of it. I genuinely like a small portion of rap.

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    Rap < Classical Music

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meta-Knight View Post
    I personally hate the majority of mainstream rap music. It sounds nothing like singing to me. Not to mention most of the songs are about the same subject. As far as I know, the only good rap worth listening to is underground or anything made before the mid-90's.
    You're just not exposed to alot of it. You probably only hear some of the stuff that's on the radio. Some popular rappers (Common for example) that are really good don't get as much air time as people who are marketed better (50 Cent for example). As with mostly every genre of music...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hambone View Post
    Rap < Classical Music
    Definitely. Classical music is smurfing awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Meta-Knight View Post
    I personally hate the majority of mainstream rap music. It sounds nothing like singing to me. Not to mention most of the songs are about the same subject. As far as I know, the only good rap worth listening to is underground or anything made before the mid-90's.
    You're just not exposed to alot of it. You probably only hear some of the stuff that's on the radio. Some popular rappers (Common for example) that are really good don't get as much air time as people who are marketed better (50 Cent for example). As with mostly every genre of music...
    Quoted for Truth.

    All of the nonsensical gangster rap garbage is being stuffed down your throat while the good rappers are all overshadowed.

    Again,not all rap is bad.


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    Every genre of music has it's ups and downs. The only reason Rap is getting a bad rap... um, no pun intended... is because it's so popular today. The so called rock music with the vocalist wishing his ex-girlfriend were dead, doesn't exactly have the greatest lyrics in the world either.

    But you know what, it all sells and us intellectuals will sit here, whine and moan about how terrible it is. It's true, but don't go and say it's not music, because IT IS. Snapping your fingers could be considered as music for god sakes. So why not computer generated beats then?

    I'm happy listening to my rock/alternative lovelyness, but this is just dumb and ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æ¿æƒ2 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Æ¿æƒ2 View Post
    I've heard that Rap is an acronym for "rhythm and poetry" which if it's true, then no rap isn't music. Because if it was, then stupid beatniks reciting poetry to some bongos would have to be considered music too.
    :laugh: Yes, and no one argues that beatnik freeform is music but it was never so popular either. If it had been you can be sure that there would be claims it was. It is as if by saying it's music they somehow become "legitimate". I just don't see the point. Why not accept what it is and rejoice in it? It's not like it is lessened by not being music, only by how it is expressed. Oh, how popular expression lesses it every year.
    At least someone acknowledges what I say, sheesh. Hell, even if it isn't music, I listen to some of it. I genuinely like a small portion of rap.

    Yes, Arianna acknowledges what you say and ignores everyone else who has sense enough to know that: what "music" is can't be contained within a box. Rap is music like it or not/ ignore the fact or not. Music takes a great variety of forms.

    If you say rap isn't music, you might as well say Pluto isn't a planet....
    uh, oh- wait a minute!!


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