Sepiroth thoughts.

[DarkLord]

(SPOILER)Just to clear a few things up. Jenova isn't Sephiroth's mother, that would be Lucrecia. Hojo planted the Jenova cells into the unborn Sephiroth, for more info, try and look into Lucrecia/Hojo/Sephiroth or Vincents backround a bit more indepth
In my opinion he is the best villian, but that's just me

[The Crystal]

Sephiroth is... a classic villain. He is like Darth Vader for example. He(and the FFVII game) mark the begining of a new generation to RPGs. He did things that no villain did until that time(killing a member of your party, for example). Sephiroth is part of the history of video games(not only FF series). Because of this, he will never be forgotten.
This is why so many people like him.
Sephiroth was a great villain, because of these things, but if you forget about these "revolutionary things(begin of a new generation of villains, with more depth, etc.)" you guys will see that exist MANY villains better then him, in video games. Some of them, even in the FF series.
Everything evolve. FFVII and Sephiroth were good to their time. But now, we have other FFs and other villains, much better then it, and then him.
Popularity is not equall to "being the best". FFVII(and Sephiroth) is popular, because of the time that the game was released, not because is "the best game ever!". And this is something that some people have to understand.

[Crop]

If your going to talk about someone/thing please... spell the name remotely correct

What is this, a spelling bee? Who are you to tell him how to spell things? Bu if you REALLY want to get onto spelling mistakes, you did not spell 'inappropriate' right in your sig.

DUH! Thats the whole point of sicking Jenova on you so while your busy fighting her/him/it? He gets to get away but more importantly not be distracted by you and continue his plan. That wasn't cowardice.... its not like he even wanted Jenova to kill you.

How the hell do you know? Tell you his plan did he?


I personally also think he was a rubbish villain, I think Rufus was far better.

[Goldenboko]

If your going to talk about someone/thing please... spell the name remotely correct

What is this, a spelling bee? Who are you to tell him how to spell things? Bu if you REALLY want to get onto spelling mistakes, you did not spell 'inappropriate' right in your sig.

Reread that please... I said remotely correct, its not like he thought he spelt it correctly because if you notice he spelt it like three different ways.... and thank you for pointing out my mistake.

DUH! Thats the whole point of sicking Jenova on you so while your busy fighting her/him/it? He gets to get away but more importantly not be distracted by you and continue his plan. That wasn't cowardice.... its not like he even wanted Jenova to kill you.

How the hell do you know? Tell you his plan did he?


I personally also think he was a rubbish villain, I think Rufus was far better.

Of course he didn't want Jenova to kill you, he wanted you to give him the Black Materia remember?

[Blykus]

Actually, I think Sephiroth is one of the greatest villians in the Final Fantasy series. I think the only two that surprass him are Kefka and Kujo, to be honest.

[Sephex]

Sephiroth was a lot more interesting in the first half of the game, when everyone spoke reverently about what a godly soldier he was, and then a series of gruesome incidents began occurring that were attributed to him either by eyewitness accounts or the sheer brutality of their execution, although he always remained out of sight. The trail of blood, the President found slumped on his desk with a sword in his back, the Midgardsorm impaled messily on a tree, the slaying of the cargo ship crew leading up to his ghostly first appearance... This was all great stuff, imbued with a sense of mystery and creeping horror that was gradually eroded as the story progressed and you began to find out what his whole deal actually was.

You know, that's exactly why I got interested in Sephiroth. I never really knew why untill I read this post. Very well said.

[Bolivar]

Sephiroth is... a classic villain. He is like Darth Vader for example. He(and the FFVII game) mark the begining of a new generation to RPGs. He did things that no villain did until that time(killing a member of your party, for example). Sephiroth is part of the history of video games(not only FF series). Because of this, he will never be forgotten.
This is why so many people like him.
Sephiroth was a great villain, because of these things, but if you forget about these "revolutionary things(begin of a new generation of villains, with more depth, etc.)" you guys will see that exist MANY villains better then him, in video games. Some of them, even in the FF series.
Everything evolve. FFVII and Sephiroth were good to their time. But now, we have other FFs and other villains, much better then it, and then him.
Popularity is not equall to "being the best". FFVII(and Sephiroth) is popular, because of the time that the game was released, not because is "the best game ever!". And this is something that some people have to understand.

that was very on point.

[Crossblades]

Sephiroth is a decent villian. He's not the greatest, but still decent

[Christmas]

He is a filial son that take care of his rotten deformed Mama.

[Blykus]

He is a filial son that take care of his rotten deformed Mama.

Are you implying that(SPOILER)Lucrecia is rotten and deformed? As DoC showed, she is rather attractive.

[Dignified Pauper]

He is a filial son that take care of his rotten deformed Mama.

< Sephy's real mom

[Crop]

If your going to talk about someone/thing please... spell the name remotely correct

What is this, a spelling bee? Who are you to tell him how to spell things? Bu if you REALLY want to get onto spelling mistakes, you did not spell 'inappropriate' right in your sig.

Reread that please... I said remotely correct, its not like he thought he spelt it correctly because if you notice he spelt it like three different ways.... and thank you for pointing out my mistake.

DUH! Thats the whole point of sicking Jenova on you so while your busy fighting her/him/it? He gets to get away but more importantly not be distracted by you and continue his plan. That wasn't cowardice.... its not like he even wanted Jenova to kill you.

How the hell do you know? Tell you his plan did he?


I personally also think he was a rubbish villain, I think Rufus was far better.

Of course he didn't want Jenova to kill you, he wanted you to give him the Black Materia remember?

It really does not matter how anyone spells anything.

He could have killed you and got the black materia. He didnt need you alive.

[Elpizo]

Having finished VII a few weeks ago I can now give my thoughts on Seph from a player's point of view too.

He was there in teh game, he fitted in it, did what he had to do and he did it all fine. I liked it. I shall be honest: In teh beginnign (after I finished IX and played VII. I thought it was cr@p, Seph was an overrated mama-boy with an oversized sword.

Bought the game (The Ultimate gaol to finish all FF's Ican get my hands on! You're the last and next from I til IX, VIII! Bwahahaha!)
and was determined to finish it.

The more I played, the more I felt a bit ashamed of what I thought before about it. I can see why people like Sephiroth. He did fancy stuff. It was cool when on disc2 and 3, when you were flying around, yo ucould see his Meteor hovering over the world. Gave it a darker feeling.

It was nice that he could manipulate his mother to escape without its head, took hsi form, killed Aeris, collected the Balck Materia, messed with CLoud. But here's the thing: Jenova did all that. Sure Sephiroth planned it, and I have nothin gagainst it.

But when I see people calling Sephiroth ubercool for all he did, it makes me frown. It was not Sephiroth. It was Jenova. Their God-villain was a frozen body in the northern crater. Not THAT cool, if you think about it. I'm fine with Sephiroth-liking, as long as people realize that the only times we really saw Sephiroth were in the Nibelheim flashback, Northern Crater on Disc 2 and on the end of Disc3. (Can be more, I don't remember it all.) And all the other times, it was Jenova. (It IS creepy, you know. Tearing your own arm of to let it fight the enemies of your 'son'.)

So my disliking for Sephiroth does not lie with Sephiroth himself, but with his fann00bs hailing him.

I did like him. "Those chosen by the plannet" is one of my favorite villain-tracks. And I L-O-V-E-D the Final Battle. God-Final-Bosses rule. (Which is why Kefka and Necron rule, too.) And One-WInged Angel was nice, too. (But I prefer "The Extreme" from VIII and "The Final Battle" from IX over it, sorry.) Bizzaro Sephiroth was a bit of a disappointment when it came to challenge, but Safer Sephiroth amde up for it. He did not manage to kill me even once, but he offered a bit of a challenge (if you don't use Knights of the Round). Super Nova was great, too (but I prefer Grand Cross from Necron, sorry again). I think teh way of him coming down from heavens, folding his wings open and that fancy battle-background made him one of my favorite Final Bosses, but not my favorite villain.

So all in all, I like Sephiroth, he is a good villain in VII, but I can also see that there can be better villains than him. And in my opinion, there ARE better villains than him.

The bad thing about VII is not thegame, it's the swarm of fann00bs it has.

Last thing: I personally, liked Sephiroth in AC more, because he actually did something more 'active' in the movie than he did in the game.

[kalabora]

Sephiroth...
Had depth. All of the players had depth and things you could relate too.
Truely a great game.
Sephiroth is the best hated/loved villian in history in my opinion.

[Raebus]

Sephiroth...
Had depth. All of the players had depth and things you could relate too.

Yeah, I'm sure someone out there was always super humanly strong and didnt know why until a fateful day or had been injected with wierd [img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img][img]/xxx.gif[/img] and took on another persons memorys as his own.