I don't like the way FF7 portraits homosexuality...

[Peter_20]

Since I think FF7 is such a great game, I find it sad that the guys at the Honeybee Inn are such perverts.
It's so obvious that they're supposed to be gays, but instead they behave like they were rapists or something.
Not only do they approach Cloud in a VERY uncomfortable way, but they also are complete wimps, that kind who seems capable of weeping for the least of things.

I mean, I KNOW homosexuals don't automatically act extremely different, as these guys seemed to do.
Also they don't automatically get turned on by everyone (I find it hard to believe that about 6-7 guys would all fall in love with Cloud just like that).
And Cloud feeling afraid of them: why would he?
If he's so comfortable with his sexuality, then he shouldn't feel so afraid of them falling in love with him, because he wouldn't be able to return their feelings.

What the hell?
I'm a little angry with the creators of this game, because this kind of prejudice is very stupid and irritating.
I wish guys like FuSoYa, Sabin, Seifer and Amarant would be considered gays one day, because that's not impossible at all, and they would add some cool atmosphere to the whole gay thing.

[Flying Mullet]

Honestly? They probably made them "over-the-top gay" so that people could identify they were gay. If they weren't, most people would not have known that they were and Square probably wanted to make sure everyone knew that they were gay.

[finalfantasyguy4ever]

i dont like homosexuals its just wrong

[Flying Mullet]

i dont like homosexuals its just wrong

And this has to do with how FFVII portays homosexuality how?

[Mirage]

Newsflash: They hit on him because he was a paying customer.

[bipper]

Newsflash: They hit on him because he was a paying customer.

Way to piss on my parade; I thought they were hitting on my through my pixelated avatar

[Jimmy Dark Aeons Slayer]

Yea well who wouldn´t want to be a big muscle guy with a tong?

[McLovin']

Since I think FF7 is such a great game, I find it sad that the guys at the Honeybee Inn are such perverts.
It's so obvious that they're supposed to be gays, but instead they behave like they were rapists or something.
Not only do they approach Cloud in a VERY uncomfortable way, but they also are complete wimps, that kind who seems capable of weeping for the least of things.

I mean, I KNOW homosexuals don't automatically act extremely different, as these guys seemed to do.
Also they don't automatically get turned on by everyone (I find it hard to believe that about 6-7 guys would all fall in love with Cloud just like that).
And Cloud feeling afraid of them: why would he?
If he's so comfortable with his sexuality, then he shouldn't feel so afraid of them falling in love with him, because he wouldn't be able to return their feelings.

What the hell?
I'm a little angry with the creators of this game, because this kind of prejudice is very stupid and irritating.
I wish guys like FuSoYa, Sabin, Seifer and Amarant would be considered gays one day, because that's not impossible at all, and they would add some cool atmosphere to the whole gay thing.

:twak:

[LunarWeaver]

Once again, the true discrimination of FFVII is overlooked. Racism... Heterosexism... it may all be true, it may not be. But this game discriminates against monsters. Did you see how easily Sephy impaled the big snake? Complete discrimination. It portrays monsters in a horrible manner. Monsters have feelings too, and they don't just randomely attack everyone walking across the world map. They have lives, families, and jobs. This game makes me sick.

i dont like homosexuals its just wrong

I have bad news about the character you have in your avatar then.

[Peter_20]

Once again, the true discrimination of FFVII is overlooked. Racism... Heterosexism... it may all be true, it may not be. But this game discriminates against monsters. Did you see how easily Sephy impaled the big snake? Complete discrimination. It portrays monsters in a horrible manner. Monsters have feelings too, and they don't just randomely attack everyone walking across the world map. They have lives, families, and jobs. This game makes me sick.

Alright, then this game is discrimating against monsters as well, fine.

...but my point still concerns the homosexuality part, and since that's about humans - us - it's a bit more serious.

[Madame Adequate]

That's a disgraceful statement. We're not more important than other intelligent life-forms just because we're 'Humans'. Look at the Sahagin - they're clearly intelligent enough to develop, engineer, and make use of tools. Yet the game portrays them as cannon fodder to be killed with impunity - and worse yet, it shows THEM as the aggressors. Anybody with even a passing knowledge of Sahagin history and culture will be aware they are a sensible and kind people, with a deep and poigniant culture, only ever fighting in defense of their lands or loved ones.

[Peter_20]

That's a disgraceful statement. We're not more important than other intelligent life-forms just because we're 'Humans'.

Yes, from our standpoint we're more important.
Would you choose a human to die instead of... an insect?
I don't think so.

Yes, all life is equal and bla-bla-bla, but humans will always give priority to themselves in these cases,
and we all know that's the truth.

[LunarWeaver]

Bombs commit suicide because of the abuse they receive. Do you not cry at night thinking of the suicide you have driven them to? Because I do. Forget the homophobia, think of the bombs.

[Bolivar]

I'm guessing you're referring to Muki and all the other dudes in the Group room. I usually choose the $#%@* (or whatever arrangement they chose) Room, cause it adds a little bit to Cloud's whole confusion thing.

There's one thing I would like to add:

There is nothing in the game suggesting they were gay/straight/bisexual/whatever.

They were (toned down for a T rating) prostitutes.

[Peter_20]

There is nothing in the game suggesting they were gay/straight/bisexual/whatever.

They were (toned down for a T rating) prostitutes.

Well, I think you can clearly tell that they're supposed to be gays, because they perfectly live up to the stereotype.