When does a law go too far?

[bipper]

I*Love*Green*Olives writes to tell us the Toledo Blade is reporting that State officials have rubber-stamped a "civil-registry" that would allow accused sex offenders to be tracked with the sex offender registry even if they have never been convicted of a crime. From the article: "A recently enacted law allows county prosecutors, the state attorney general, or, as a last resort, alleged victims to ask judges to civilly declare someone to be a sex offender even when there has been no criminal verdict or successful lawsuit. The rules spell out how the untried process would work. It would largely treat a person placed on the civil registry the same way a convicted sex offender is treated under Ohio's so-called Megan's Law
."

What the freddie prince jr? That is horrible. So you can basically be treated as a sex offender, with out being one. This is known as "Pre-crime" treatment. What the hell is our society comming to, racial [read: racist] profiling, precausious accusation, delimited sentancing - where does it end? All this to make sure one does not potentially commit a crime. Is this considered democratic facism of sorts? I would simply call it gross entrapment.

Is this going too far? Can this even be justified? Your thoughts?

Bipper

[Araciel]

i think you pretty much hit it on the head. what they are doing here would be criminal in itself, and alienates someone for something they haven't been proven as doing anything wrong. the law is largely based on witness testimony which is the problem, if you are accused of something, automatically people are going to think you did it, cause someone said you did, but that's where it should end. you shouldn't be LEGALLY affected unless undeniable proof is shown.

way too far, unjustifiable

[Odaisé Gaelach]

Well... so much for "innocent until proven guilty". Under this law even if you're found innocent then you're still guilty enough to be put on a registry.

[Araciel]

the more security a country has, the less freedom it has
it's sad but true.


if even being accused as a sex offender would cause someone to be on the registry, sure they might catch a few of those bastards more often, but the price is far too much to pay for all the innocents who get labeled as monsters

[Arrianna]

I give it 6 months before it's found unconstitutional. One challenge is all it would take.

[Araciel]

oh yah the constitution....USA all the way....

forgot it was in toledo and stuff

[bipper]

oh yah the constitution....USA all the way....

Oh? That peice of toilet paper that gets trumped by all three branches of the government nearly daily?

[Araciel]

thats the one


i actually don't know that much about the constitution, surprise

[Peegee]

Unfortunately there are more emotionally charged mothers and supporters to justify this type of banality. Consequently discussing this topic sensibly is not only counterproductive to understanding the 'reasoning' (of which is emotional not logical), nor helpful to finding a solution that won't anger said people.

All I see here is evidence that even at the age of 35-40+ adults are just as prone to mob mentality and public ostracization of concepts they see as negative. It is good to keep kids away from sex offenders, but this is going too far.

[Araciel]

eloquently put for someone called pureghetto

[Levian]

You mean "When does a law GOE to far?" don't you?

I still don't get that joke or whatever it is, btw.

[bipper]

PG: I don't know if I would call it mob mentality so much as unified secular bitching. Small individual units can get parts of the government to do things by simply kicking up a fuss, and justifying it. Unfortunately, our governmential entities and employees therein, are not properly acclemated to digress such emotionally charged issues, in fear of bad PR. It is a pathetic state we find our selves in.

Eidit : Oh Levian was right, can a Mod please fix my sacreligous typoE? It should read as Levian states.

[Araciel]

you mean the same reason creationism is taught in schools?

[bipper]

you mean the same reason creationism is taught in schools?

izit?

[Arrianna]

thats the one


i actually don't know that much about the constitution, surprise

I would say 90% of the people in the US don't either. Including the judges unfortunately.