Quote Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF View Post

Errrr, no, that clearly states that if fines are imposed as a legal punishment they should not be so great as to ruin a man's livelihood. It says absolutely nothing whatsoever with regards to presumption of innocence or guilt. Moreover the Magna Carta is almost 800 years old - Britain is a nation with common law. The vast majority of what is written in the Magna Carta has since been either drastically changed, or entirely removed.
I think that is all it had to say, to adhere to the present topic. Not so much innocent before guilty, but the fact that a punishment that could ruin a mans lively hood be persued over a superficial claim.