Best Ultimate Weapon mechanics?

[Mirage]

The conformer is awesome, cause you'll easily be doing 9999 damage against the enemies that count when your level is 70+. Not to mention, damage isn't divided by 4 when morphing.

[TheSpoonyBard]

Not to mention, damage isn't divided by 4 when morphing.

Usual Morph damage is 1/8 normal damage.

[Laugh at face of Danger]

i love the death penalty's mechanics, it's unique and pretty good if you have Vincent from an early stage and always save him to finish off any fiend that gets in your way. That's what i did, anways, and he's uber poweful ^^

~BUT NOTHING CLOSE TO THAT VINCENT! that's just crazy!

[Sefie1999AD]

Killing 65,535 enemies takes a really long time. The damage Death Penalty did on my game was pathetic, maybe a few thousand hit points. That's because I hardly ever used Vincent, except when I got him all his Limit Breaks.

[_yeojina_]

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[Kryton87]

I gotta say the Ultima Weapon thing is good for me, simply because I try not to let my character's HP drop below max when I can help it. Put a 4x-Cut on Cloud, with ultima Weapon, 9999hp, he does 9999 damage per hit, four times. That'll get rid of Jenova Synthesis in no time at all. It might be interesting to go through the game without getting the ultimate weapons... Or leastwise without using them. I mean yeah, people have done better, and its not exactly a challenge, but it'd just be so that you don't get to the point where all you do is Knights of the Round and 9999 damage all the time. It kinda removes the point of it being a game. At that point, its all about how fast you can beat a boss, rather than If you can beat the boss.

[Zeromus_X]

1.) Yuffie-witten's Conformer. It plain rules. You won't stat max without it.
2.) Cloud's Ultima Weapon and Kitten Sith's HP Shout ( ) Doing 9,999 damage every attack is simple with this.
3.) Cid's Venus Gospel and Nanaki's Limited Moon. Since MP is never a priority like HP, these go under the 'higher HP = more damage' weapons.
4.) Tifa's Premium Heart. Ugh. I guess if you use Deathblow alot it would help, but they must not've been thinking the day in development when they made this weapon.
5.) Vincent's Death Penalty. All the other useful weapons are powerful almost as soon as you get them. This is not. I don't have the time to kill 9,999 enemies, let alone 65,000. I don't care if it can kill Emmy or Ruby in one hit or whatever.
6.) The only reason Death Penalty isn't on this list is well...Aerith's Princess Guard. It's uselessness is self-explanatory. Although it would be perfect for Ruby weapon (as evidenced by the Ruby weapon video), but you'd have to code her into the party.

[TheSpoonyBard]

5.) Vincent's Death Penalty. All the other useful weapons are powerful almost as soon as you get them. This is not. I don't have the time to kill 9,999 enemies, let alone 65,000. I don't care if it can kill Emmy or Ruby in one hit or whatever.

768 kills will get it dealing the same damage as a normal weapon. Approx. 5,000 kills will get it dealing the same damage as Cloud's Ultimate Weapon at max HP, providing their Strength is the same.

[Mirage]

Not to mention, damage isn't divided by 4 when morphing.

Usual Morph damage is 1/8 normal damage.

Seems to be 1/4th for ultimate weapons. I did exactly 2499 damage when I morphed with Ultima Weapon.

[TheSpoonyBard]

I said 'usual', referring to normal weapons. The ultimate weapons have different damage forumulas that causes Morph to deal more than the usual 1/8 damage.

[Mirage]

Where do you get your battle mechanics data from anyway?

[TheSpoonyBard]

http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/file/final_fantasy_vii_battle_mech.txt
http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/file/final_fantasy_vii_enemy_mech.txt
http://db.gamefaqs.com/console/psx/file/final_fantasy_vii_party_mech.txt